Well downgrading GDM didn't help. One interesting note. I was looking through the log files and noticed that /var/log/gdm had the sticky bit set "T" on other. After downgrading the permissions went back to what I expected. Upgraded again and the perms still look right. Not sure what happened there. Still can't log in graphically though. I've got no clue where to look now. Richard -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines