Iirc, preupgrade (which I've been pleased with in the past) won't do anything, or at any rate won't install F15, until that is officially released; right? Also, I have a couple of odd minor issues on different PCs, relating to metacity a/o the monitor (HP w2207h) a/o the KVM switch between my PCs and the peripherals. Even with F15 abandoning metacity, and possibly also whatever is causing the other minor issues, my guess is that I'll be better off doing all fresh installs this time, except perhaps on one brand new PC.. In fact, I'm already in process of copying all my data to an external USB hard drive. I'm copying my home directory, /etc, /usr/bin (though not /bin), / usr/sbin, and /usr/share from each PC. Are those the ones I need? (Are any of them superfluous?) Fwiw, I''ve always done a lot of minor tweaking after each fresh install, getting two panels and an assortment of launchers into the places where my fingers can call them without my conscious attention; I'd like to skip that, if F15 and Gnome3 will let me. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines