On 03/29/2011 11:49 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > On 03/30/2011 12:10 AM, JD wrote: >> On 03/29/2011 08:08 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >>> On 03/29/2011 10:43 PM, JD wrote: >>>> On 03/29/2011 06:28 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>>>> On 03/29/2011 05:08 PM, JD wrote: >>>>>> Can this be attributed to Gnome or to the X server >>>>>> or to the ATI Radeon driver? >>>>> I'm using F 14 and Gnome and see no problems even though my mobo's maxed >>>>> out at 1G RAM. Probably the driver. >>>> Well, it is taking up to 3.5 seconds for the windows >>>> in a workspace to get populated and fully visible >>>> when I switch to that workspace. >>> What is the load avg on the system in question? I have seen similar on >>> my system when the load avg starts to climb (anything> 5 is really >>> bad). But, when he load avg is low, redraws should be good. >>> >>>> It used to be almost instantaneous in F13. >>>> I have 2GB ram, and 12 GB swap space, but >>>> very few apps running. Most of the time I have >>>> 6 workspaces, each with a separate FireFox window, >>> Firefox is a resource *PIG*. Since it is one application, I'd look into >>> how much memory it is using (both in ram and in swap), and whether or >>> not any of its windows are doing anything (like displaying FLASH or >>> active JAVA applets). >>> >>>> and up to 4 4 workspaces, each with a gnome terminal. >>>> and 1 workspace with Thunderbird. >>> How big are your mailboxes? Thunderbird can also slow you down if you >>> have large mailboxes. >>> >>>> Hardly any space is used in swap. To wit: >>>> >>>> # swapon -s >>>> Filename Type Size Used Priority >>>> /dev/sda3 partition 4200992 17540 -1 >>>> /dev/sdb2 partition 8385924 0 -2 >>> What does your performance look like after you close *every* firefox >>> window and thunderbird? [make sure firefox is no longer running.] >>> >> Here's my load average as reported by top: >> >> top - 21:02:44 up 1 day, 6:41, 5 users, load average: 0.17, 0.30, 0.73 >> The 5 users are myself: the main Gnome login session, >> and 4 Gnome-terminal login shells (I always start the gnome terminal >> as a login shell (-ls) ) >> Guy, it is not the system load. Under fc13, even when I had multiple >> kernel builds going, 6 FF windows, each with 3 to 4 tabs, and Thunderbird >> running, switching workspaces was snappy. >> >> Something is terribly wrong with Xserver or Gnome, or Ati Radeon Driver, >> or all 3. > On your hardware. I am also using F14 on my laptop (x86_64) with the > ATI driver, and I only see the problems you see under high system load, > which easily happens with thunderbird open (quite a few *large* > mailboxes) and a *lot* of tabs in 1 firefox window. Especially when > letting a FLASH window or two run for a couple of hours.... It is happening right now, and here is the system load: top - 10:07:19 up 1 day, 19:46, 4 users, load average: 0.28, 0.30, 0.16 It has been like this (i.e. the delayed workspace switch) as soon as I loged in 1 day and 19 hours ago!! > Since I closed firefox (I now use Google chrome sparingly, and close it > when I'm done), I'm running *much* better. My load avg hasn't shot up > yet (and it should have started doing so already based on my hightly > cron jobs!). I'll know more tomorrow morning after I suspend it an > restart it. > Makes no difference here. Right now, I have no firefox running. And thunderbird's cpu load is too small to be shown in the terminal window in full screen mode (98x31 - I have to use large fonts). >> What's worse: it will be exceedingly difficult for me to roll back to fc13. >> Isn't progress wonderful! >> I hope an Xorg developer sees this!! > I don't think they'll be interested unless you can prove its your xorg > driver. > But how can I prove it? Is there a way to instrument the Xorg driver to leave a timing trail in a large circular buffer for the workspace switch events? and then dump the buffer to a file after N many events? > Just another thought, how long since you rebooted last? Sometimes xorg > updates can require a reboot to work right. When was the last xorg > update you installed? See above. Xorg got upgraded to fc14 about 1 day and 22 hours ago. > I suspect you have something mis-configured, but I have no clue as to > what right now. But I did not change any configuration between fc13 and fc14. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
