On 02/11/2011 09:11 PM, Outway wrote: > I don't see in what way a mailing list is superior to a newsgroup. > But I do see several advantages of a newsgroup: please spec your system. > * Clear thread structure (collapsable trees in standard news readers) thunderbird client, ability 'on site', faster recall / access. > * No filtering on reader's side necessary depends on what 'filtering' is. i prefer *full control* of all input of others, in what ever; 'tech.support.list.net' | 'x-header:' | 'text/plain' \ 'subject:' | 'body' | 'attachment' | 'sort to' | 'from:'. not wade thru what has been put on web pages or sent 'headers' and not be able to delete a 'ravel' i do not want in thread. not wait for 'body' to load. especially if i am paying for time. news group feeds do not permit 'freedom of speech', or 'freedom view' of *what other subscribers* write. do 'newsgroup searches' run as well as an 'email list' search? does 'newsgroup' recover a crash or lockup as well as 'email list'? who has to reload everything? > * Inappropriate messages can be removed after the fact (by a moderator) any intelligent reader can decide his own moderating of email if reader has knowledge of email client. > * Own messages can be cacelled by sender in case of error newsserver uses a 'delayed spool'? sender has 'cancel send' 'window' to 'remove from spool' before "relay"? > * Subscribing and unsubscribing is easier for a reader no problem getting here. no problem dropping unwanted. all with email client. > A newsgroup is no more complicated to set up from a reader point of view > than mailing list access. No exotic software is needed, the newsgroup > can also be web interfaced. i do not recall anyone saying that it is/was. thunderbird's "tree" structure allows equal ability between both email list and newsgroup. newsgroup will not let you filter delete from thread what is not sent from your system. > Is there a specific reason why the fedoraproject chose to use a mailing > list instead of a newsgroup? fedora does it right. mozilla does their part w/RFC design compliant. with email list i can store what i want, when i want, for how every long i want, with ability to delete what i want, with out wait of censored information. ___ mainboard intel(?) 1.3g cpu, 32 bit, 300m0 fbuss, 320 mem. scientific linux 5.5 r.2.6.18-194.32.1.el5 #1 SMP Tue Jan 4 12:58:04 EST 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (20101210) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Red Hat/3.6-2.el5 Firefox/3.6.13 at&t aDSL: copper, 24k680' line terminate. ___ *long story short* leave as email list, unfiltered. let me filter what i want filtered. add moderated newsgroup add moderated / censored web page with redhat/fedoraproject, mozilla, all things are possible. in closing, if you want newsgroup and think it can be done, submit your qualifications to proper authority. put together what you want, present for a demonstration, test run. more power to you. have at it. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . **** in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ ****
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