On 24/01/2011 05:28 ÏÎ, Tim wrote: < snip > > It's impossible to keep it away, when you're having to deal with > things that can only be bought, or paid for, over the internet. > Likewise with other account managing scenarios. Well we live in different countries so i guess things out there are a bit different , around here i guess i should say that internet isnÂt that much intergrated to our lives , so there is no such scenario . So i guess i will take your word for that matter > I've yet to find good anti-virus for Windows. Well all i can say is that a black hole does exist although u canÂt see it with your eyes or a normal telescope ( Chandra isnÂt a normal telescope ) likewise the fact that u didnÂt found one doesnÂt necessarily mean that it doesnÂt exist . >No, I don't care to know, I don't use it any more. It figures , if u really wanted one , you would have found it even by accident . > I and don't provide support to other people using it any more, either. >I like being able to tell suffering Windows users who ask for my help, >"sorry I don't use it > any more, and can't recommend anything to you." > What I would> consistently find were the following: > > Viruses getting through completely unnoticed, since the viruses are > always developed well ahead of any anti-virus developments. That is because they are supposed to be developed that way . If there was an antivirus that could heal all viruses then there wouldnÂt be any need for further developing antivirus software . > Viruses getting through despite the anti-virus software being able > to recognise it. You'd get a warning that "you have been infected," > and then you had to waste lots of time to disinfect. Where, what we > expected is for the anti-virus software to stop the attempt. Well if the antivirus software doesnÂt have the antivirus signature then there is noway that it would prevent the infection . If u donÂt know that something is out there in front of u , u canÂt avoid it . That would be quite normal . > Viruses being unremovable because Windows wouldn't let you modify > /that/ file at the moment. But, the virus was allowed to modify > /that/ file. Sorry but thatÂs a bit flawed . If you had keep some touch with Windows u would know that there are boot viruses , which load ahead of the system and of course the NTFS driver . The NTFS driver is the one that locks the partition containing the system which causes the nightmares and thatÂs the solution to the problem also . > The anti-virus software being a complete pain. Making a system run > slowly, causing ordinary software to fail, and being a convoluted > nightmare to use it. Well i donÂt know if SELinux makes a computer far slower but SELinux would be equally a nightmare and by all means before the last update of the SELinux policies , as normal user i was unable even to start X Windows so letÂs skip the argument about software failing due to the antivirus but yes if u wish i have run into problems due to the antivirus blocking things but then again the solution was only a minute away and far more easier . One last note since i forgot to mention it earlier . The thing with the computer at home is that has mostly personal data for the owner of the house and so the damage would be limited to him but on a working environment there are databases with clients data , the logistics department has databases with personnel data , ..... . So if such a database was compromised then the losses would be far worse ( ok granted u would replace the database from a backup ) because the data of the personnel / clients would have leaked to the hacker , .......... so i do believe the side effects of such thing would be far more worse . -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
