From: users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 73 To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 23:33:04 +0000 Send users mailing list submissions to users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi, I want to use Wireless USB adapter for the Desktop, i think it will be nice to have both 2.4 GHz & 5GHz Do you want 802.11n capabilites? (On both bands?) I don't know about this, I have DSL . size of adapter will not matter much to me, but it should be plug and play (USB) thanks for help Suru > I want to bye new wireless USB adapter, > I am using Fedora core 13 operating system > > can i get the suggestion which USB adapter i should bye, that > will work with Fedora Core without any problem > > Thanks in advance for your suggestion > > > Suru You didn't give us much to go on. Is it for a desktop or laptop? Do you want 2.4GHz, 5GHz, or both? Do you want 802.11n capabilites? (On both bands?) Please post to the list in plain text, not HTML. (thanks!) Anyway, I've found Linksys WUSB54G are pretty much plug-and-play adapters for fedora desktops; kind of bulky for laptops, though. That's 2.4GHz-only, and 802.11b/g only. Version 4 for sure supports WPA2 encryption; I believe versions 1 and 2 support only WEP and WPA. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: smathias1972@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:37:21 -0800 Subject: Re: Kolourpaint - like app for Fedora i didn't knew about yumex, thank you! --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Carroll Grigsby <cgrigs986@xxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Carroll Grigsby <cgrigs986@xxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Kolourpaint - like app for Fedora > To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 3:01 PM > On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:32:17 -0800 > (PST) > S Mathias <smathias1972@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > Are there any "mspaint"-like programs for Fedora 14? > > > > $ yum list | grep -i kolour > > $ > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > A search of yumex reveals that kolourpaint4 is included in > the > kdegraphics package. Not being a kde user, I have no > experience with > this program. > > -- cmg > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: metherid@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:21:07 +0530 Subject: Re: Kolourpaint - like app for Fedora On 01/19/2011 10:07 PM, S Mathias wrote: > i didn't knew about yumex, thank you! yum search foo is better than yum list | grep foo Rahul --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:55:56 +0100 Subject: using checksum file in windows Hi, As most of the people say, I have downloaded the F14 ultimately but in using torrent in Windows. The folder contains two files- i) Fedora-14-i686-Live-KDE.iso ii) Fedora-14-i686-Live-KDE-CHECKSUM .iso would be burned and then installed replacing F11, but what should I do of the second checksum file (having no extension), in windows (my hard disk is dual booted) am I required to run this, if yes how? -- Regards, Parshwa Murdia Making the simple complicated is commonplace, making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's innovation.. -C Mingus --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: kevin@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:04:57 -0700 Subject: Re: using checksum file in windows On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:55:56 +0100 Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > As most of the people say, I have downloaded the F14 ultimately but in > using torrent in Windows. The folder contains two files- > > i) Fedora-14-i686-Live-KDE.iso > ii) Fedora-14-i686-Live-KDE-CHECKSUM > > .iso would be burned and then installed replacing F11, but what should > I do of the second checksum file (having no extension), in windows (my > hard disk is dual booted) am I required to run this, if yes how? http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Burning_ISO_images_to_disc/sect-Burning_ISO_images_to_disc-Validating_the_Files.html kevin --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:28:28 -0600 Subject: Re: which is more user friendly--KDE or GNOME Parshwa Murdia wrote: > Hi, > > A very basic thing I would like to ask if KDE is more user friendly > then GNOME desktop? It depends upon what you like. I use GNOME, but mostly just to manage windows. I don't use the file browser, or any of the GUI stuff from the menus. The only menu items I use are "Lock Screen", "Logout" and the little icon clicks on the workspace bar for starting my mail reader and browser. I use those about once per boot up, which is about once per 200 days. Once I have a terminal window, I just clone it using the right click and "open terminal", so I guess that's another. Mostly, I use command line stuff, so for me it wouldn't matter. I don't use the editors which came with GNOME, gedit or whatever it is. I use eog, but from the command line with a file name. I use GIMP once in a while because the version of eog I have is broken and can't print, but I do it also with the command line and a file name. If you use the menus a lot, and the provided editors and whatnot with the file browser, then I guess it would make a difference which you liked. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: Mike.McCarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:41:49 -0600 Subject: Re: Damn these Windows Virus Testers - Online Jim wrote: > F14 > > Every so often I get one of these DAMN Windows Virus testers while They aren't actually doing anything. Simply set your preference about downloading always to ask you where to put things. Then, when it "finds Windows viruses" on your Linux machine, and starts to download the .EXE for auto execution, you'll get a pop up window asking where to put it. At that point, you can close all the relevant windows, and no harm done. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:11:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Damn these Windows Virus Testers - Online On 12/18/2010 02:21 PM, Jim wrote: > F14 > > Every so often I get one of these DAMN Windows Virus testers while > Online with Firefox and I can't stop it , I have to do a > ctrl-alt-backspace to get out of it. and even tho I long back in Firefox > wants to automatically restart the test , without asking me if I want to > Restore or Start New Session. When you see the Restore or Start New Session, you can remove a check-mark from any window/tab you don't want restored. Its as simple as that. Remove the check-mark, and the window won't come back. Problem solved (for now). Just to clear up a few things, they are *not* Windows Virus Testers. They are a carefully crafted attempt to get you to download their malware to your (supposedly) Windows computer. I actually get a kick out of them, especially the C: portion of those windows, as they look like a Windows program running on my Linux system. Too Funny. We got the PopUp windows problem solved. Now we have to get the "close that window without running (or opening) something else" problem solved. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjchome@xxxxxxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:34:26 +0100 Subject: Fedora + BigBlueButton = win (multi conference chat, voice and video server for meetings/teachings) Hi Galls & Guys, you should have a look at BigBlueButton as a multi conference and video server for your meetings/teachings (http://bigbluebutton.org). This is a great program, you can install it in a breeze, fully GPL compliant and with a very active community. Latest version has multi video conference with screen sharing, text chat, slides control and even shared whiteboard for annotations! This is huge for remote teaching, and you don't need to subscribe to any web page, nor pay anyone to use their server. Maybe Fedora community can even help develop bbb further, a working client that uses non-adobe gpl flash player would be sweet, for example. And no, I don't get paid by BigBlueButton at all :P You should also consider BigBlueButton (http://bigbluebutton.org) if you want to host your own servers, and it's fully open source and under a heavy development. There are scripts to install it very easily in Redhat/CentOS and Ubuntu/Debian. I first heard about bbb project on FLOSS Weekly podcast (http://twit.tv/floss147) Bu sure to check out their videos: http://bigbluebutton.org/content/videos Should I post this email to Fedora board or some other mailing list because I'm not sure that Fedora user mailing list is the right way for this proposal. Cheers, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxxxx --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: russell.don@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 12:54:11 -0800 Subject: Re: how to use gmail smtp server for outgoing mail On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 15:07, Tom Horsley <horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:58:10 -0500 Genes MailLists wrote: > It can be tricky to get the correct authinfo matching name This whole thread makes me glad I switched to postfix (which I see RHEL 6 has as the default now as well). Configuring gmail to be a "smarthost" was trivial and well documented on the postfix web site (which is where I learned all I needed to know to set it up). I finally got it working... a combination of missing "dnl" delimiters in the sendmail.mc file and fiddling with the client-auth file used when sendmail acts as the client... --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:29:12 -0600 Subject: Re: evolution-alarm-notify doesn't start on fedora 14 On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 16:31 +0100, Ambrogio wrote: > Il giorno lun, 10/01/2011 alle 17.17 -0600, Aaron Konstam ha scritto: > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 22:34 +0100, Ambrogio wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > I'm using evolution 2.32 on fedora 14, but I can't see alarm displayed. > > > > > > If I start evolution-alarm-notify manually every alarm are displayed. > > > > > > Someone can help me configuring it at startup? > > > > > > Tnx > > > Ambrogio > > > > > > > > That is strange, I can't get > > /usr/libexec/evolution/2.32/evolution-alarm-notify > > to execute. How are you doing it? > I'm working as root, so it is simple for me :-D > I think you can use sudo. > Bye > Ambrogio > When I do it as root it freezes the machine. -- ======================================================================= Life is like an analogy. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: russell.don@xxxxxxxxx To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:34:55 -0800 Subject: determining sudo access In /etc/profile.d/local.sh I'd like to modify the PATH env variable to include /sbin /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin but only if the user has sudo access. I can use sudo -l but that prompts for the user password unless the user is configured for NOPASSWD in sudo. Is there a reasonably convenient way to do this? I suppose I could just always included those directories at the end of the PATH... then if users try a restricted command they'll get "requires root" instead of "command not found". What do other people do? Ideally this should work via ssh as well i.e. from one machine to another I often do something like ssh -t <machine> sudo sysctl -a Which fails unless the path is set correctly on the remote machine... otherwise I have to specify the full path for sudo and sysctl. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:22:46 -0430 Subject: Re: evolution-alarm-notify doesn't start on fedora 14 On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 16:29 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 16:31 +0100, Ambrogio wrote: > > Il giorno lun, 10/01/2011 alle 17.17 -0600, Aaron Konstam ha scritto: > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 22:34 +0100, Ambrogio wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm using evolution 2.32 on fedora 14, but I can't see alarm displayed. > > > > > > > > If I start evolution-alarm-notify manually every alarm are displayed. > > > > > > > > Someone can help me configuring it at startup? > > > > > > > > Tnx > > > > Ambrogio > > > > > > > > > > > That is strange, I can't get > > > /usr/libexec/evolution/2.32/evolution-alarm-notify > > > to execute. How are you doing it? > > I'm working as root, so it is simple for me :-D > > I think you can use sudo. > > Bye > > Ambrogio > > > When I do it as root it freezes the machine. Then don't run it as root. It's meant to be run under a normal user account. I hope you aren't going to tell us your user account is root :-) poc --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:32:32 +1030 Subject: Re: CHECKSUM is not easily accessible on Fedora Download Page Tim: >> So every time I do this, I have to look up instructions, and hunt >> around for them and the right checksum file. g: > it would be nice if fedora site was setup so that everything, > releases, iso files, software packages, new and archives, where > accessible via a better, single, ftp layout. but then, it is difficult > to *prettify* an ftp page, so why should they spend the time. > > "http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/"; is pretty much 'straight > forward'. so why can same not be done for *new*? > > even better, set up an "ftp://fedoraproject.org/pub/"; As much as I dislike absolute step-by-step instructions, particularly as they (usually) leave you in the lurch when you can't do one of the steps, it's not that hard to make a page that says: 1. Download the files. Here are some sources: <link to download page, with list of mirrors, a seeding link for a torrent, etc.> 2. Check your download is correct. Here are some instructions for checking on Linux or Windows or Mac, and the checksums you use to check the file with <link>. NB: I think the checksum should probably only be on the main site, so no checksums are around for supporting hacked downloads. It also provides a good metric for how many people do check the file. 3. Burn your ISO to disc, here are some instructions for different burning software <link>. Or, here are some instructions to leave the ISO on a disc you can access in some way, and boot up and install from a hard disc <link>. Or, here are some instructions for installing over a network <link>. And here is a page going into more details about the different ways you can install <link>. 4. Once installed, there's a few things you should probably configure, straight away, here's a set of brief start up instructions that explain the post-install steps <link>. 5. If you're a newcomer, you might want to read the starter's guide to using Fedora <link>. -------------------------------- Now, some of that stuff changes from release to release, so you'd had links to pages within that release's notes (checksums, specific instructions, etc.). Other things don't, so you'd have generic notes about, how to download large files from websites, how to burn the ISO on Windows software, outside of the release-specific parts of the website, for example. A decent webmaster can write that up wrapped in appropriate HTML sections so they can apply CSS to it, and re-style it every time they want to follow the latest fad, without having to re-write all the content. i.e. They can pretty it up, without lousing up the instructions that people need to see. Or, the alternative of making the pages up from a database. So that pages insert <basic install instructions> or <explicit install instructions> depending on the page needs. Which, also, makes it easier to have various different types of instruction pages, that all show exactly the same instructions. No confusion, no errors on one page that don't appear on another... I've seen it come and go, over time. But there really needs to be a one-page place to start the ball rolling, and it needs to be easy to find (both from the homepage, and by search engines *). You can link to pages with more information, for those who need more information. But for those that just need reminding of the order of steps, the first page might well do. Likewise, "further information" pages can have a 5 point quick outline of what to do at the top, and an in-depth coverage of all those steps, below, for the same reason (some people just need a prompt, others need full instructions). * Most people find pages via search engines. And that usually means straight into a page within the site, not the homepage. That only works well when the site is authored well. But can fail terribly when a site has multiple similar pages, in some way, but where only one of them is really suitable. When building a site where you keep old pages, you need to author them, right from the start, with prominent version numbers, dates, and links to the current version. Links that continue to work when the "current version" changes. e.g. On all pages, the current install guide link would always be "/install-guide", whereas links between archived old pages are "install-guide" (within the tree, not from the root). -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:37:04 +1030 Subject: Re: determining sudo access On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 14:34 -0800, Donald Russell wrote: > In /etc/profile.d/local.sh I'd like to modify the PATH env variable to > include /sbin /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin but only if the user has > sudo access. Even if that person does have sudo access, there are probably times when they should use the command in /bin rather than /sbin, et cetera. There are, or used to be, various commands that had different versions in each. If you mean for that path to change depending on whether they had used the sudo command, that'd be a different thing, and would probably work without problems. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:55:14 +1030 Subject: Re: Let's talk about HTTPS Everywhere On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 03:29 -0800, S Mathias wrote: > 4) If it's so great why isn't it more prevalent? Are you the same person that's already asked this question about two or three times on this list in the last couple of months? The answer's still the same: You can't force the use of HTTPS where the website isn't designed for it. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: saippua5@xxxxxxxxx To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:38:02 +0300 Subject: alias doesn't work Hi! I have few aliases in .bashrc. They all work as expected. Recently I installed firefox4 from remi repo and pretty happy with it. However I would like command 'firefox' to be aliased to 'firefox4'. So, I added the following entry in .bashrc: alias firefox='firefox4' But it doesn't work! After I login and trying to start Firefox by typing 'firefox' from the terminal it starts firefox 3.55, no the 4.0 beta8! I checked with which command and it shows: $ which firefox alias firefox='firefox4' /usr/bin/firefox4 If I then start firefox4 from command line, closing it and next time the alias works - entering 'firefox' from command line starts firefox4. Is it normal? How can I change it to always start firefox4 whatever command was entered first? TIA -- Try to remove the color-problem by restarting your computer several times. -- Microsoft-Internet Explorer README.TXT -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
