Hi There, I have some thoughts regarding the future and aim fedora developers should take. I - as a very average normal user - have installed several releases, and am very happy with Fedora 13, and have no doubt Fedora 14 will satisfy my needs as well. Having said that, there are some concerns that I'm missing in the direction Fedora seems to be taking. I can not code to save my life, so all that follows are things I think developers should think about, but please do not consider what I say here serious accusations. I'm just stating, what I - as a very average user - am missing. 1) Looks: Forgive the curse-words, but Linux has been surpassed in looks by as far as I can see all other OSs. I don't know all, but Windoze and Mac all look better on lesser graphic-cards. Things like true class-borders should be developed. True see-through should also be made possible for apps like conky et al. Btw, I Love the F14 background. 2) Wifi: It may be a sore point, but there is no ease of installing (newer) machines with built in wifi cards. While I understand that all those things are built for functionality with Windoze, and that many manufacturers don't make their own Linux drivers, but even with the correct drivers it doesn't often work. I feel it should be on the forefront of the developers attention to make wifi work more easily - on all machines. Wireless computing is getting more and more popular, and is the future for the internet. So if Linux wishes to survive (sorry to put it so strongly), it is important that wifi works as easily as when installing Windoze. It doesn't; check the forums, check google. Few issues are so frequent. 3) Hardware management: su -, lshw, isn't good enough a hardware manager for the average user. A new app should be developed that looks better and is interactive. Enable and disable certain hardware should be an option. Finding manufacturer's details of driver-less hardware is a must. Aida32 springs to mind, XP's Device Manager springs to mind. GUI, interactive. This is necessary to appeal to the average user - ie. me. And while we're at it, try and make the wifi-card enableable through this app; rfkill unblock all doesn't always do it. As I said, just some thoughts. Do with it what you see fit. I'll keep using Fedora till it stops working. This is what I'm missing. Note that if all this is already available, it isn't well enough advertised. -- Greetz, Roelof Kusters aka Ben The internet isn't a highway, it's a swamp: the more you surf, the more it draws you in. Make 1000 euros in minutes! Sell my house: http://www.bentrein.com/house -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines