Re: VPN/IPSEC tunnel

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On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 05:38:14 +0100
<J.Witvliet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Does not agree,
> 
> "People" claim that openvpn is supposedly easier to configure,
> compared with *swan.

Indeed. At least part of it is going to be a personal preference. 
If you know and have used ipsec for a long time thats likely to be
easier for you. ;) 

> However, for a _very_ simple tunnel that migth be true, but most of
> the problems people encounter with ipsec are often related to either
> certificates, CA's, routing, or smartcards. And they will encouter
> likewise problems (but other syntax) when using openvpn.
> 
> When confronted with more complex network setup (mesh topology),
> scalability, or ipv6 your best (or even only) option remains ipsec.

I'll disagree with you there. I have setup openvpn in all kinds of
setups. ;) It's a great deal more flexable. It can bridge or route, it
can work on any port udp or tcp, it can go through proxies, it uses the
normal bridging/routing tools as any other real device. 

> Interoperability with existing vpn products? Forget openvpn!

Indeed. You need openvpn on both ends. If you don't control one end
point, ipsec may be your only/best choice. 

> Even for very simple hapsnap tunnels one might even consider the
> tunnel capabilities of openssh.....

ssh performs pretty poorly in some cases, doesn't automatically
reconnect, requires a higher level of access, only works over tcp, etc. 

> Hw

kevin
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> Verzonden: Sat Dec 04 21:41:35 2010 Onderwerp: Re: VPN/IPSEC tunnel
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> On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:32:04 -0430
> Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 18:57 +0100, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> > > Is openVPN can make IPSec tunnels or just SSL ?
> > 
> > I believe it's fully IPSec compliant. 
> 
> Nope. Openvpn uses it's own ssl based protocol. It cannot directly
> interoperate with ipsec tunnels. ;) 
> 
> That said, if you have control over both endpoints, IMHO openvpn is a
> vastly better choice than ipsec. 
> 
> kevin
> 
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