James McKenzie wrote: > On 10/16/10 10:16 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:59 PM, James McKenzie >> <jjmckenzie51@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> On 10/15/10 1:31 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:50:12 -0700 James McKenzie wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/14/10 1:52 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This post has raised some heat in blog comments and also in Fedora >>>>>> mailing list discussion. >>>>>> >>>>> Discussing OpenSource versus Proprietary always brings heat. Folks have >>>>> to remember thought, that the OpenSource drivers do not support features >>>>> and products that the proprietary drivers do, due to the 'hiding' of >>>>> information by Vendors and the time it takes to black box test a >>>>> particular feature. That is a fact of life and we all need to keep that >>>>> in mind when someone asks: >>>>> >>>>> "Open or closed source"? >>>>> >>>>> Well what video card do you have and what do you plan to do with it? >>>>> >>>>> Older model, 2D and simple 3D: Open Source, almost always. >>>>> Newer model (not on the OSS driver supported list) or complex 3D. >>>>> Proprietary, mainly. As the OSS driver picks up more features AND the >>>>> video card becomes 'older' then the OSS driver should be selected over >>>>> proprietary. >>>>> >>>>> Simple answer, complex solution as information has to be gathered and >>>>> suggestions should be made with caveats "This works for me" or "Your >>>>> Mileage May Vary". >>>>> >>>>> No need to argue here. This is about as cut and dried as it can be >>>>> made. Some folks swear by Open Source, others at it. Some swear by >>>>> nVidia/Catalyst/Intel, others at it. Nobody is ever going to be >>>>> completely satisfied by someone else's solution if they are not doing >>>>> EXACTLY the same things. >>>>> >>>>> James McKenzie >>>>> >>>> A voice of reason on this issue. Amazing. :-) >>>> >>>> As for me, on every new Fedora release I install (currently running F13) >>>> I try the latest open source driver first. Then I install the NVidia >>>> driver (from the rpmfusion-nonfree repo). The latter has not yet failed >>>> to be snapper when running the KDE Desktop Effects than the former. >>>> That's on my desktop machines. >>>> >>>> >>> Hopefully the Open Source community will figure out how to support your >>> unique configuration and make us all happy. Until then, you have to do >>> what you have to do. >>> >>> Thank you for the nice comment too. I tend to live in the commercial >>> world but use Fedora/CentOS in my private life. >>> >>> James McKenzie >>> >> I'll probably keep away from NVidia drivers for now, even if more >> people voted for them. Just because I would like to test Nuveao driver >> on different NVidia cards and see for myself how do they work. >> >> > That is great, but I doubt that the Noveau drivers will support four > screens, but it would be fantastic if this driver did support multiple > cards over multiple screens to present something like 4096 x 3000 (I > know the first number is correct but the second is a little low). Does > this driver do something like that now? > > James McKenzie > > The one reason that I use the Nvidia proprietary driver is the Cuda device that is present on any Nvidia from the Geforce 8400 on to the big 400 series. I am a Seti@home volunteer that uses the gpu to do computational tasks. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ The nouveau driver does not support Cuda at all so using the drivers from RPMFusion is the answer to solve this problem. Don't get me wrong, I think the people who volunteer and develop the nouveau driver are to be thanked deeply for their work but nouveau just needs more development which takes time. As well my tv tuner card said no way when I tried to install it using nouveau, so no tv clinches the argument for RPMFusion drivers. I would like to see a 100% compatible driver made from the nouveau crew but that will take time. Also is their legal issues with making a 100% compatible drivers from an open source developer? I don't really know if there would be legal problems there or not.... just a thought!!! Michael -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
