On 21 September 2010 02:08, Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 16:29 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: >> On 09/20/2010 03:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> > Steven Stern wrote: >> >> Well, that's useful, Craig. I guess I should hand my Mac to the nearest >> >> homeless person. >> > >> > You should. You overpaid hundreds of dollars for the same hardware you >> > could buy separately for less. Those hundreds of dollars you could have >> > saved could have went to a homeless shelter. >> > >> > I will always be mystified how people are suckered into buying Apple >> > products. I guess that's why I'm not a Steve Jobs. >> >> I hate to go off topic (VBG), but you guys just don't get it. ÂWe live >> in the world and I make my money by knowing technology. And that's not >> just Linux. It's also Windows and Mac. My main computer is Fedora, as is >> my server, but I have a Windows notebook and a MacBook, because I have >> to know those technologies, too. ÂOK, I'm done with this thread, because >> Godwin is looking over my shoulder. > ---- > I should have specifically stated 'Apple devices' and not just Apple > products because computers are a different beast. > > The issue is that Apple sells closed devices with specific requirements > to use a closed software package (iTunes) with undocumented and ever > changing protocols (ie... daap such as we are discussing). This has > resulted in varying times when you can't use iTunes to interact with > other devices and software that have reverse engineered compatibility > because Apple continually changes things without notice or documentation > to the community. If you want to buy their devices > (iPod/iPhone/iLockYouOut) then so be it but you should recognize that it > is likely not to play well with the rest of the world. It's a choice, as in life all things are. I recently needed a new phone. I looked around and I liked what I saw of the iPhone (my significant other has one) but for me, the fact I would need to run iTunes to effectively use it was a blocker. So I *chose* an HTC Wildfire as it is based on Android. I compromised on an Android device because I am not able/willing to use an operating system that allows me to run iTunes - but that was my *choice*. In this case I did not choose Apple because it did not fit my self-imposed technological limitations. I could equally well have bought a new Mac and a new iPhone, had I wanted to make that compromise (cost isn't a factor), but I didn't because I *like* my Linux laptop and I am comfortable with it. However, I still have an Apple Airport and I used to have an Apple Powerbook. Those were devices I chose because I did not need to make the same self- imposed compromise. Choice is good. -- Sam -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
