Re: Aren't upgrades demanding too much restarts?

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On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 22:15 -0300, Andre Costa wrote:

> >
> > Andre, I think needs-restarting means those applications need to be
> > restarted, not you need to restart the whole system to update those
> > applications.
> 
> Yes, that's what I understood as well. This is what I tried to
> evidence with my example.
> 
> > As well as 'reboot me' should means exactly that: reboot that particular
> > application.
> 
> Exactly. These userspace apps should be restated automatically after
> the upgrade, without bothering the user with a "reboot your computer
> to make sure any changes will be applied" warning.
> 
Well you must admit that is not a very nice feeling to see that your
text editor, or your mail client just restarted, in the middle of
something extremely important, or even better, your pidgin restarted
right in the middle of a conference with your boss :) . That's why it
gives you the option to restart those particular applications at your
own will. And I emphasize: those specific applications, not the entire
system.
I don't know about the other message (and my personal opinion is you can
completely forget about it), as I only use yum, but I can tell you this:
before restarting my system (F13) this evening in order to load the
latest kernel, I had at least 40 days uptime, with an fully up to date
system (except of course for kernel which was 4 releases old).

So my advice is: restart only those applications that show up in
needs-restarting and forget about reboots, until a new kernel is
released. And switch to yum :)

> > I never ever saw a linux system which has to be rebooted in order to
> > update pidgin.
> 
> Amen. If it ever happens, it will be time to move on to something else... ;-)
> 
> Andre



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