Tim: >> You have to wonder if those programs had such big problems because they >> were badly coded, trying to do things that they shouldn't do. Takehiko Abe: > So you measure the quality of the programs with SELinux. Ouch. I certainly put bad marks against programs which do unwise things (try to read things they shouldn't, try to write where they shouldn't, try to execute things that the shouldn't, etc.). SELinux warnings are just one set of red flags. >> You see warnings with some programs about it trying to make something >> executable that SELinux says shouldn't be necessary. Suggesting that >> the programmer is one those who believes that their software should be >> able to do absolutely anything without any restriction. > It does not suggest such a thing. When I see warnings that some program has tried to read some file completely unrelated to its operation, yes I do believe that the programmer is one of those that thinks that their program should do anything that they want, regardless of other concerns. > Linux is not Microsoft Windows. Though some programmers seem to think that it should be. Some users, too. > No SELinux does not mean no restriction or no security. I never said it. But when you see something trying to read something that it shouldn't, that was stopped by SELinux, it's a window into the mindset of the program author. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
