On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 06:28 -0400, David wrote: > Again - Windows "Driver hell"? I don't know of any. Examples please. I don't know if this counts as "driver hell", but it was certainly "hell" when it happened. A year or two back I purchased an HP Photosmart all-in-one scanner/printer. It has its own Ethernet connection and I plugged it into my router. My wife's iMac saw it and it worked immediately. Time invested: close to zero. On my Fedora system I installed hplip and it saw the printer and scanner and both worked. Time invested: maybe 10 minutes. On my daughter's laptop (Windows Vista) it took multiple installations of the CD software (which turned out not to be compatible with Vista), followed by repeated email interactions with HP Support, plus downloading various updated packages which didn't work, then downloading other versions which finally worked but only after burning to a physical CD before installation (good thing the laptop has an optical drive), before finally getting the printer to work most of the time. I also had to mess with Vista's "user-friendly" control panel to get the wireless connection to work reliably. I never did get the scanner to work as it was easier to scan on Fedora and copy the results. Time invested: over a week. Maybe this is all easier under Windows 7, and maybe HP has updated their software to make it less of a pain, but that wasn't the case when I was doing it. Even though it was clearly HP's fault, it gives the lie to the idea that installing hardware under Windows is always seamless, even when it's officially supported (Windows is the only "supported" system according to the box the printer came in). poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines