Hi, >> Completely dead. Catatonic. Unresponsive. Nothing in the logs. > > you could reboot, switch to a text console (e.g ctrl f2) have a look > in $HOME/.xsession-errors, though I've you've logged in again already > it's probably been overwritten. my guess would be that something > killed your X session. If you're running f13 and have an nvidia card, It's a Sapphire HD5770 (Radeon). Here's the .xsession-errors.old, which I believe is the one from the crash: http://pastebin.com/GBBiQj7g There are quite a few errors in there, but nothing that I think is directly related to it going catatonic. Bunch of network errors from azureus, which I assume happened after whatever killed the network and desktop. > that's kind of the point of fedora. if you want something stable, use > CentOS (or RHEL) or maybe an ubuntu variant. I think the benefits of a > cutting edge distro outweigh the drawbacks, but I agree that it is > very frustrating when something fundamental stops working. Yes, frustrating, particularly when it's one fundamental thing after another, like ethernet detection, printing, and basic networking. Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines