My name is Robert and just thought id pop in to say, Fedora does sometimes require a little tweaking but you have to keep in mind that its made from millions of people things get overlooked sometimes and you may need to download a couple plugins and such but in my experience its a great platform to learn from and possibly if your comfortable with it a great platform to develop. So my advice to you Paswhia is to be patient read up on release notes and immerse yourself in the fedora project as a whole On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 15:03 +0000, users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Send users mailing list submissions to > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > users-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > users-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of users digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Thomas Taylor) > 2. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? (Tim) > 3. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? (g) > 4. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Christofer C. Bell) > 5. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Steve Underwood) > 6. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? (Tim) > 7. install guide to get Fedora 13 on the new 2010 mac mini > (Jurgen Kramer) > 8. Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ... > (Christopher A. Williams) > 9. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 10. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 11. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 12. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 13. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 14. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 15. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 16. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 17. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > (Parshwa Murdia) > 18. Re: Java Support in Firefox (Parshwa Murdia) > 19. Re: Java Support in Firefox (Parshwa Murdia) > 20. Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? (Tim) > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Thomas Taylor <linxt@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:51:56 -0700 > > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:51:50 +0530 > > Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thanks a lot for the suggestions and the simple purpose why did i ask > > > is that fedora is not as common as was windows but is slowly now > > > replacing it. i would have to see one book for this. > > > > Hi, Parshwa; > > > > I've been following this thread for some time now. Had to go back to the > > original message since the responses seem to have covered about every topic > > except the original one. I'll asume you now have some kind of internet > > connection since you seem able to respond fairly rapidly. > > > > One very good reference, if it's available where you are, is Linux Pro > > Magazine. They have aeveral tutorials each issue along with good information > > and free distros from different producers. Another good resource would be the > > Linux or Fedora Bible series. Lots of good information, how-tos, comparisons > > of different ways to accomplish a goal and why, etc. > > > > I learned much of my linux knowledge from RedHat when they had the 5.x series > > (before Fedora). Yes, Fedora is a bit harder to learn from as a beginning > > point, but you learn more that way. Not just knowledge, but also the hows and > > whys of things. Keep up learning and in a while you'll get where you want to > > be. > > > > Tom > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:37:35 +0930 > > > > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 04:50 +0000, g wrote: > > > if you are meaning 'windows', as in 'ms windows', bill gates stoled > > > concept from 'apple computers'. plus there was a big stink about bg&c > > > using exact same 'trash can' icon. > > > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:04:28 +0000 > > > > Tim wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. > > > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to. > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Christofer C. Bell <christofer.c.bell@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:15:17 -0500 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:04 AM, g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Tim wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > > >> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. > > > > > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to. > > > > The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox > > PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto computer. That predates > > pretty much everything else being discussed here. > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Steve Underwood <steveu@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:24:27 +0800 > > > > On 07/24/2010 05:15 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:04 AM, g<geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >> Tim wrote: > > >> <snip> > > >> > > >> > > >>> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. > > >>> > > >> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to. > > >> > > > The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox > > > PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto computer. That predates > > > pretty much everything else being discussed here. > > > > > > > > The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of Doug > > Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic > > implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary. > > > > Steve > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:58:24 +0930 > > > > Tim: > > >> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. > > > > g: > > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to. > > > > A second hint: Xerox. > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Jurgen Kramer <gtmkramer@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: install guide to get Fedora 13 on the new 2010 mac mini > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:43:33 +0200 > > > > Just for the interested... > > > > I've finally managed to get F13 working properly on the new 2010 mac > > mini. I use it as a MythTV frontend. There are some caveats and issues > > regarding SATA and HDMI audio which need to be resolved so I've put > > together a short guide how to get Fedora 13 (x86_64) on the mini. > > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~slimnet/ > > > > Jurgen > > > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ... > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:36:52 -0600 > > > > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 16:23 +1000, Roger wrote: > > > On 07/24/2010 01:32 PM, Nathan W wrote: > > > > *snip* > > > > > > > >> I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that > > > >> when stuff is outside my house it can be priced annually, it can be > > > >> arbitrarily withheld, it can be surveiled, it can be compromised by > > > >> those who have direct physical access, and it is not something I really > > > >> want or need. Just my honest opinion. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > a hearty +1 > > > > > > > Something I have an inherent distrust for. > > > > > > ...So does this also mean you have the same inherent distrust for that > > private internal cloud? You know the one that sits inside of your house > > and that you control? > > > > The problem here is that you have co-opted the very definition of cloud > > computing into something that it is not. And then based on that, > > continue to criticize it. I really think the problem is that you fear a > > technology that you clearly do not understand. > > > > Many people have stated that public cloud has relatively little value > > for use cases such as yours. We're all OK with that. > > > > ...But, with your current arguments, you should also be distrusting that > > internet service connection you're using to get to this list. > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:52:42 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM, g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > I try that way, using Ctrl+shift keys > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:54:19 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:18 AM, g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > if 'pop up blocker' notice shows, hold down <ctrl>, <alt>, or <shift> key. > > > > > > Pop up blocker is not the problem, but what the problem is, that it > > shows "applet started" at the bottom of the table i join but the table > > never gets started for playing!! > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:55:18 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > if you are meaning 'windows', as in 'ms windows', bill gates stoled > > > concept from 'apple computers'. plus there was a big stink about bg&c > > > using exact same 'trash can' icon. > > > > > > linux was not even around at that time. > > > > > > Really, the battle of Windows vs Linux. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:58:50 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Taylor <linxt@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Hi, Parshwa; > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > I've been following this thread for some time now. Had to go back to the > > > original message since the responses seem to have covered about every topic > > > except the original one.I'll asume you now have some kind of internet > > > connection since you seem able to respond fairly rapidly. > > > > > > Yes, I have internet connection but don't sit all the time, when get > > time or I feel to sit to, I do. > > > > > > > One very good reference, if it's available where you are, is Linux Pro > > > Magazine. They have aeveral tutorials each issue along with good information > > > and free distros from different producers. Another good resource would be the > > > Linux or Fedora Bible series. > > > > > > This Bible series, I have for fedora 10. (The book i mean), i said > > this in my earlier post, you might have seen since you gone back to > > the original thread also. > > > > > > > Lots of good information, how-tos, comparisons > > > of different ways to accomplish a goal and why, etc. > > > > > > Yes, indeed. > > > > > > > I learned much of my linux knowledge from RedHat when they had the 5.x series > > > (before Fedora). Yes, Fedora is a bit harder to learn from as a beginning > > > point, but you learn more that way. Not just knowledge, but also the hows and > > > whys of things. Keep up learning and in a while you'll get where you want to > > > be. > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks. > > > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:59:29 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. > > > > > > Oh I see. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:00:11 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, g <geleem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to. > > > > > > Oh. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:01:32 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Christofer C. Bell > > <christofer.c.bell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox > > > PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto computer. That predates > > > pretty much everything else being discussed here. > > > > > > Ok, but the history is really very wide, in different-different parts > > of the world they did research. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:02:35 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Steve Underwood <steveu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of Doug > > > Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic > > > implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary. > > > > > > As I said, really history is very wide. There were many many great > > minds behind the technology we get today. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:04:13 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > >>> The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa. > > > > > g: > > >> 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to. > > > > > A second hint: Xerox. > > > > > > Xerox Parc. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Java Support in Firefox > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:07:50 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Paolo Galtieri <pgaltieri@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I have installed the Sun java jdk and linked the plugin library > > > > > > ln -s /usr/java/latest/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so > > > /home/pgaltieri/.mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so > > > > > > I restarted firefox and accessed > > > > > > http://www.gokgs.com/applet.jsp > > > > > > And it locked firefox up for about 1 minute. During this time clicking > > > on a tab would do nothing, clicking on the menu bar would do nothing. > > > After about a minute all my mouse clicks in firefox suddenly caught up, > > > but it still would not render the applet. On the other hand > > > google-chrome had no problem rendering it. > > > > > > I'm running firefox 3.5.11 on F12 with sun jdk jdk > > > > > > That way works. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn@xxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Java Support in Firefox > > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:09:27 +0530 > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Mark Eggers <mdeggers@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I wonder if I can convince it to use a Sun-based plugin . . . . > > > > > > Sun Java works very well in Fedora. > > > > Regards, > > Parshwa Murdia > > > email message attachment > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Community support for Fedora users > > <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? > > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:33:49 +0930 > > > > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 17:24 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: > > > The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of > > > Doug Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic > > > implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary. > > > > We have him to blame for the mouse. Sorry, I just couldn't resist... > > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- Robandapril <Liberty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
