On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Andrew Haley <aph@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Absolutely but since this nonsense often degenerates in a flood of the same kind, some very plain Fedora users just as myself refrain from posting their problems here because they fear they will be served this kind of bullshit from people who present themselves as real Linux experts and provide silly advice as "reinstall", "Google some more", "don't bother us", etc.
I believe Fedora would fare better if users of this list tried to moderate this kind of silliness mainly when you consider that Microsoft, Apple or such could subsidize people to stir the pot. And though there is, of course, no moderation on this list, wouldn't it be nice it people who are paid by Red Hat took it to themselves to maintain some common sense on this list and stopped evading the issue by pretending everyone is entitled to an opinion?
The prerequisite is that Red Hat employees have some common sense themselves... Of course, we all know that Fedora being an entity completely separate from Red Hat is just a figment of the imagination. Fedora's constitution -- whose link should appear on the welcome page but is very hard to find: I can't at the moment -- says that a majority of the board members, including the Project Leader, should be from Red Hat.
So Red Hat can steer Fedora any way it wants, and that's OK to me. So, why do we have silly bashing here as if it was a Debian list? Why can't we discuss real things with respect, not only technical, but on the organizational level?
I'm sure plenty of people think it's obvious nonsense. However, moderatiom rules don't forbid nonsense AFAIAA.
Absolutely but since this nonsense often degenerates in a flood of the same kind, some very plain Fedora users just as myself refrain from posting their problems here because they fear they will be served this kind of bullshit from people who present themselves as real Linux experts and provide silly advice as "reinstall", "Google some more", "don't bother us", etc.
I believe Fedora would fare better if users of this list tried to moderate this kind of silliness mainly when you consider that Microsoft, Apple or such could subsidize people to stir the pot. And though there is, of course, no moderation on this list, wouldn't it be nice it people who are paid by Red Hat took it to themselves to maintain some common sense on this list and stopped evading the issue by pretending everyone is entitled to an opinion?
The prerequisite is that Red Hat employees have some common sense themselves... Of course, we all know that Fedora being an entity completely separate from Red Hat is just a figment of the imagination. Fedora's constitution -- whose link should appear on the welcome page but is very hard to find: I can't at the moment -- says that a majority of the board members, including the Project Leader, should be from Red Hat.
So Red Hat can steer Fedora any way it wants, and that's OK to me. So, why do we have silly bashing here as if it was a Debian list? Why can't we discuss real things with respect, not only technical, but on the organizational level?
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