On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:14:07 -0400 Marcel Rieux <m.z.rieux@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Ok, so that's why it's OK if it doesn't work! Windows at $35 (OEM) for > > 5-7 > > > years seems a better alternative though. Red Hat salesmen must be really > > > competent. I certainly couldn't sell one Red Hat copy for sure. > > > > If you want to run Windows then do so. > > > Hey, that's exactly the answer I said wouldn't help Red Hat. Great! I'm > surprised it comes from a former kernel maintainer. Maybe that's the spirit > at Red Hat? I don't work for or speak for Red Hat. > > Fedora is a *project* not a product. > What's this supposed to mean? That you can escape all problems by sending > users to Bugzillas? It's like the difference between watching Germany lose at football, and playing football. In the former case you pay money for and it may or may not do what you want, in the latter case you are part of making something happen. > > Its a bunch of people who together > > put in and get various things out of a common project for whatever reason > > makes sense to them. > > > > What makes sense to them? I'd suggest you look at the EU FLOSS studies - everything from 'saving me cash' through 'because I enjoy it' to 'making the world a better place' with a lot of other things on the side. > management at Google's? They're people who have one thing in sight: the > user. And they succeed. People who have geek "projects" in mind fail. Of Oh yes - like the iphone where they don't allow users to install software they want ? > course, Red Hat is moving forward but is it at the right pace? Google, who > went public five years after Red Hat now has 25x the market capitalization. > If your good friend :) Linux Torvalds had to entrust Linux's future to a > company, which one would it be? Actually his name is Linus > I strongly believe more attention should be given to users' problems and > wills. So stop just believing and start doing. Ranting on email lists rarely changes the world. Fedora is a project - so like the football team, if you think you can do better, stop whining from the touch line and start playing - and if you don't like the club you can start your own or join another one. > Your buzz off answer won't solve this kind of problem. It never has and > never will. If your spirit is the kind that rules at Red Hat, no doubt Red > Hat is doomed. As I said I don't work for Red Hat. I don't work on any Red Hat product either. You seem to be very confused about what Fedora is. The Fedora mission statement isn't 'blow Microsoft out of the water' nor is it 'world domination' nor 'end user product'. If that is what you are looking for you are - as you've been told many times - in the wrong place. Alan -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
