On 07/15/2010 04:39 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:29 PM, JD <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx > <mailto:jd1008@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > On 07/15/2010 04:21 PM, Robert Myers wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:44 PM, JD <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx > <mailto:jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> > > <mailto:jd1008@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jd1008@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: > > > > For many years, this has been > > a tug of war between > > industry on one side, and the department of defense and the > NSA on the > > other. > > > > > > You left out the Department of Energy, which is a much bigger player > > than the DoD. > > > > Meaningful computational power has been available on desktops for > > quite a while, and, if one desktop wasn't enough, you could always > > Beowulf it, which isn't much different from what the DoE has > been doing. > > > > If you think flops is a good measure of the science you can do, you > > should probably be in a different business. > > > > Robert. > > > On this list, I do not think you should be in the business of > 1- putting your words in other people's mouths > 2- telling people what business they should or should not be in. > > > Thanks for the advice. > > I've been involved in this debate in a very public way for a long time > now. > > YOU chose to use this list to advocate a position that the DoE has > been using for years to convince people that ever bigger computers are > a good way to spend money. If you didn't say it, you certainly > strongly implied it (more flops is better). > > I answered you because you stepped on MY toes. > > How long have you been around? The Cray-1 was practically synonymous > with "supercomputer," and that kind of power has been available to > desktop users for a long time now. > > Robert. > "There he goes again" I did not choose any position. I merely stated a fact and you concocted from that, that I am taking a position on the issue. I am an old timer by the average age of this list's subscribers. I was around when the pdp 8 and pdp 11 were used to teach assembly language programming. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines