On 03/06/2010 12:48 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Saturday 06 March 2010 03:50:04 pm Temlakos wrote: > >> In looking over the reviews of Fedora 12, I was shocked that a big piece >> of the possible Fedora 12 experience is missing: KDE. >> > KDE is not missing in Fedora (and never has been). It's just that Gnome is the > default DE when you install Fedora and don't customize anything. > I didn't express that properly. Of course KDE has always been available in every iteration of Fedora. What I don't see are any reviews that use KDE with Fedora. All I see are reviews that use Fedora with Gnome. Don't any reviewers ever try out KDE? > >> Sure, I had a learning curve--like how to use the new Desktop Folder as >> a widget, and how the wallpaper actually shows through it wherever you >> need to place it. And how to use Desktop Activities, and the K App >> Launcher. But these seem vastly superior to Gnome. >> > Sure. Since version 4, KDE has been completely redesigned and rewritten. It is > now a much more powerful DE than KDE3 or Gnome. Just ask a Gnome user to > configure the screen so that he can see icons from two different directories > simultaneously on the desktop. ;-) Gnome just can't do that. And that is just > scratching the surface. :-) > So that explains it--KDE is better than ever, and certainly better than I found it, way back in the Fedora Core 1 days. I just tried out KDE instead of Gnome as an experiment. Better yet, I tried first with Gnome, and then with KDE, and that's when I made my discovery. > But Gnome developers are going to engage soon into a similar rewrite and > redesign of Gnome, with a goal of providing equivalent functionality. When KDE > devs did that and Fedora pushed the KDE 4.0, a lot of people got extremely > disappointed (lack of previous features, plenty of bugs, learning curve...), > and switched to Gnome. However, it is just a matter of time until this history > repeats for Gnome users, and many will switch back to KDE --- which has by > version 4.4 become a very stable, bug-free and feature-full DE, like no other > before. :-) > > Which illustrates, by the way, one key reason why Windows is "WinDoze": they lock you in to one desktop only. Whereas with Linux you have a choice--in fact, as I understand it, lots of choices. And the developers of those choices are always competing. Competition is wonderful--brings out the best. >> I can't be the only KDE fan here. What does everybody else think? >> > You are not the only one. There are plenty of us using and loving KDE. > > But the bottomline is --- it's a matter of habit. Everyone likes what they are > most used to. My beginner's days with Linux started with RedHat 6.2 back in > spring of 2000, and my experience of Gnome in those days can be described only > as a "miserable piece of s*** full of bugs", while KDE was a sensible and > usable DE (for those times). I stuck with KDE, and since Fedora times I > occasionally take a look at Gnome whenever a new Fedora release comes out. I > have never got used to the idea of a "simplistic" Mac-like user experience > that Gnome is targeting, and I stuck with KDE even in 4.0 days, since I knew > it was not going to look so poor for too long. ;-) > > So a lot of people will tell you "Gnome does this", "KDE doesn't do that", > etc, but essentially it's all a matter of taste and developed habits. > > Best, :-) > Marko > > > So Gnome is trying to emulate Mac, while KDE is trying to emulate--what? Windows? I suspect so. Actually, the thing that really made the deal with KDE was the Switch User feature. I had never been able to switch users in Gnome as seamlessly as I can do in KDE. And I've got four different user accounts that I have to manage, and it's a whole lot simpler if I can log into them all and switch among them as easily as switching desktops. (Of course, getting new hardware with 3 GB of RAM and a dual-core Pentium doesn't hurt.) Temlakos -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
