On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 17:31 +1000, Dan Irwin wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > No doubt IP6 will eventually arrive because it will become necessary, > > but the chances of a significant number of end-users "demanding" it are > > close to zero > > And while none of the users who have a need ask (eg: yourself) the > ISPs won't do anything about it. > > You appear to have a need (eg your OS supports it, but your lack of > connectivity is the problem). The fact that the OS supports it doesn't mean that I need it. Fedora supports lots of things which I don't need. The "problem" is not that the ISP doesn't support it but that Fedora appears to expect it. Note that I don't have any connectivity problem, my original post was about IP6-related stuff cluttering up /var/log/messages. I'm not aware of any Internet host that I care about only being available via IP6. Ergo, although it might be nice to have, and might benefit me personally if I get a head start on the inevitable transition to IP6, I don't for the moment *need* it. > > as long as it provides no obvious benefit to them. And I include myself in that group. > > Clearly it provides a benefit. The existence of IPv6 in the kernel is > obviously causing problems. Why fight the inevitable? The funny thing > is, it's probably easier to connect to a tunnel broker than to try out > all the things suggested in this thread. The benefits of IP4 are mostly collective (setting aside certain potential security-related improvements for the sake of argument), and as such will become manifest once a critical mass of people start to use it and ISPs to support it. This is of course a chicken-and-egg situation. The point I'm trying to make is that only a *very* small minority of Internet users even understand the issues, let alone care about them, so this critical mass is not going to be reached by standard grass-roots activism. It's going to happen when the ISPs have no alternative because the IP4 address space is running out. poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
