Re: A "sound" observation

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On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 17:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
At this time I run all of my Fedora systems as VMs in VMware.  My host
is RHELv4.8.  On this system my sound card is a "ancient" Creative Labs
SB Audigy.  When configuring the VM you can select either "ALSA" or
"OSS: /dev/dsp" and directly access the sound hardware.  "ALSA" is the
preferred connection to avoid conflicts between the host and guest.

While I am normally a KDE user my F12 system has both KDE and GNOME
installed.  I don't normally use sound on this VM...but sometime after
the initial install sound has gone silent when the sound card is
configured as "ALSA".  Wish I had paid more attention to what update
caused the change.  But to continue....

I also have an openSUSE system with only KDE installed and when I
installed it I declined to install pulseaudio (they have a check-box for
it).  It is fully updated and sound with "ALSA" selected is no problem.

So, I just installed F12 from the Live-KDE iso.  Immediately after the
install I removed all the pulseaudio bits and then fully updated the
system.  It too has no problem to play sound with "ALSA" configured.

I snapshotted the system, did a "yum groupinstall GNOME Desktop",
restarted and *poof* sound is no more.  pavucontrol did have the Output
Devices at 10% and Playback at 0% but putting those at 100% made no
difference.  kmix had Master and PCM at max.

At some point I may do a bit more troubleshooting.  But, it is good to
experience the frustration other have with sound and apparently
"pulseaudio".  Chances are I'll be acquiring some new hardware in the
coming months.  I'm considering to run Fedora on it.  If that
happens...it will be sans GNOME and sans pulseaudio.

At this moment pulseaudio seems more of a PITA than anything and kind of
crazy that a desktop environment would tie itself to it.


Hi

I use F12 Gnome fully updated and find pulse audio sound preference doesn't offer the control I want for my ntel 82801 (ICH9 family) HD Audio

Namely I have radio coming in on audio IN  and want it to play through the Desktop speakers. Pulse audio Sound Preferences show the Audio in has content BUT has no ability to route it to the Sound OUPUT

I therefore have had to install gmixer as it DOES offer the ability to route Audio IN to Audio Output !!

The pulse audio sound preference seems vary limited in controlling a sound card facilities

--Andrew Gray


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