On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I believe you live in England. Does the BBC, who mainly developed >> Because of DRM, it even seems unsure the BBC itself will use it: >> >> <http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/22/bbc-drm-cory-doctorow> > > This doesn't affect webcasting. Ooops, you're right. I just glimpsed the article. Suvayu Ali is right in pointing out that it's very interesting. Thank you for the information you give on the BBC and OFCOM. I now understand the situation better. But rest assured that it's much worst in Canada. Until last summer MIcrosoft even used the Radio-Canada home page as a portal. Can you imagine? As I already said, I wrote to Radio-Canada/CBC's CEO to advise him that the page: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/ doesn't work with Linux. When he pretended he lacked budget to do things correctly, I noted that at Radio-Quebec and PBS, who have much less budget at their disposal, everything works fine. I added that on the CBC's site, the videos from The Passionate Eye program played perfectly. A few days later, the videos disappeared from the program's site. When you know that even at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ and msn.com flash!!! videos also play perfectly, you begin to think about Microsoft kickbacks, mainly that this has been ongoing, sometimes at Radio-Canada, sometimes, like now, at the CBC, since they began webcasting 10 years ago. According to Ed Gresko, if I remember well, the problem is caused by a wrapper they employ. All political parties, save the Green Party, which has only one representative at the House of Commons, keep silent on the matter. It's just as if the problem didn't exist. At Gesca, La Presse, the most important paper chain in Quebec, they have a Microsoft drone who never spoke ONCE of proprietary formats or tied sales and keeps pretty much silent about DRM. (It's hard to tell because article don't appear with a title and reader comments are on the same page as teh article. See: <http://www.google.ca/search?&q=site%3Acyberpresse.ca+drm+OR%C2%A0%22digital+rights+management%22+dumais> On the other side, /working for Linux/, there's facil.qc.ca , the organisation that killed Linux-Quebec. Check: http://www.linux-quebec.org/ Probably Jacques Gelinas -- former author of Linuxconf -- just got pissed off and didn't renew the registration. I was participating to Linux-Quebec. One fine day, somebody decided that we needed a board. But the competences within the group weren't established through projects. A board was elected whose members we had never heard of. Dissensions ensued, FACIL was formed. Today, they have about 5 (small) organisations and about 80 individuals as members. AFAIK, they never wrote to the the CBC's CEO, the Conseil de Presse, etc. and I never could count on those people to do anything useful. But they sure discuss the great issues at lenght... Communications Accessibles Montréal, the first ISP for individuals in Montreal and where all the Unix geeks were, went out of business. When I was there, I tried to obtain the number of members and never could: there were some problems with the database, apparently. Revenu Quebec said it didn't matter much to them since non-profit organisations don't pay tax. Special arrangements with schools, festivals and so on, were made that costed CAM a lot of money. Free dental care was offered to employees, etc. It seemed CAM was very rich! Little friends were hired to write CGI scripts. Cost to the customer: $90/hour... and of course the scripts didn't work. The companies asked for NT servers and they got it. Security updates weren't made and the servers were cleaned twice. Pretty much everybody left and the remaining members were switched to Cooptel, a coop. The potential for building a Linux community at CAM was enormous, but... It just seems everything Linux has to fail. Nothing planned, of course. It just so happens. Programmers say that if the code is good, Linux will succeed. I sometimes fear it might not be so. A wiki describing the attitude of every state towards open source would certainly be a useful tool. Excuse me for being so long, but I don't believe all those things "just happen". IMO, there's a lot of manipulation going on. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines