I upgraded two systems from F10 to F12 via DVD. Generally, everything is working well. I do have on remaining problem that I have not been able to resolve. Previously in F10, I used the default gnome-packagekit to inform me of new updates. I almost always use yum at the command line to manage packages, simply because I'm old school. The fewer levels of software between me and the install, the better. But, back to packagekit. It was very convenient to have gnome-package kit inform me of available updates and give me a summary of the changes, as well as whether they were high priority security updates. So I would like to still have that feature. For now, I have just gone back to monitoring the package announce mail list With F12, I added kpackagekit to the systems after the upgrade, but kpackagekit does not ever report any available updates. I ran the gui and checked that everything was set properly. It always gives error messages about "KPackageKit closed unexpectedly", and "KDE Daemon closed unexpectedly". Both are Segmentation fault problems. Is this a known problem. I can find a couple of bugs in BZ that look like they may be related, but not exactly the same. Is there, a known solution? Thank you for any information you might be able to give me. Lloyd -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines