On Monday 14 December 2009, Craig White wrote: >On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:26 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> > Your treatment of redhat/fedora users with over a decade of use has >> >> finally >> >> > reached the quitting point. You refuse to fix openssh, hoping that >> >> would >> >> > force me to install F12, and when I do and have problems, its go >> >> pound sand. >> >> With all due respect, is that the best you have to offer? To >> bitch'n'moan >> and to demonstrate ignorance? >> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-December/msg01145.html > >---- >You are talking about someone who runs gui as root, Yup, its my machine & the constant denials of service as a user are a PIMA. >builds tarballs as root, That is the only way you can properly install amanda. But in case you haven't noticed, amanda also will not build as root, only the install requires it. This is something that an rpm _can't_ do correctly, at least the last time I checked. >builds kernels from kernel.org for no apparent reason, Only because it supports _my_ hardware better. You have yet to ship a kernel that has the asus_atk0110 module in it to support a 3 year old asus motherboard. >uses samba >for networking Linux systems, It works, whats not to like>? I have over the years asked several question about NFS, which I gather you all prefer, but I have yet to make it work well enough that the error messages actually make sense & I'd know what to fix next. For everyone else it apparently Just Works & the errors I have posted are rare enough no help that actually fixes it has been proffered here. >complains that bugzilla is too difficult to bother with I have to sign up and get a new passwd every time I visit the place, and it bitches that I'm already a user, so it won't let me in with the password I wrote down from the last session months ago, and I'm fresh out of both patience with the pw expiry and the urge to even waste a quarter to call somebody. If we have to jump through those hoops to file a bz, then at least have the common courtesy to expire the user as well as the passwd so that we can sign up a clean account again when we do try. >, cannot figure out how to build an rpm How about a rpmchkconfig to test the spec file and suggest changes that will make it build _on this system_. The current documentation is excessively verbose without touching half the questions a newbie to it has. >and can not deal >with chainloading w/ grub. That I got figured out, what I was trying to chainload was an ext4, and old grub just throws up its hands. Long since fixed I might add. >I believe you have captured his essence. And as is often the case Craig, the view down your nose is colored by the out of focus image in the bottom half of the view. >Craig > -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been. -- Mark Twain -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
