I just wanted to add my recent experience with the new F12 kernel.... A couple of days ago, I had a PF in my area (due to the snowstorm, I imagine). My F12 machine (the one *not* on a UPS, yet) remained down for a couple of days. This morning, noting last night's updates, I rebooted it (so I could update it!). I used ssh and updated over the network using yum. (I really wanted to see the "reboot hell".) B^) I just went to reboot it. Since I wasn't logged into the console, I used the GDM reboot button to reboot the system. While it was shutting down, it just hung. That's when I noticed the caps-lock and scroll-lock leds flashing in unison. Oh, cool, I thought, a kernel panic! When it rebooted, it booted the new kernel: kernel-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686 (I had been running kernel-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 when it paniced). The machine booted OK for me. My surprise was when I went to look in /var/log/messages, there was no mention of a kernel panic! The last message was of smartd terminating. Followed by the reboot of the new kernel. So, what happened? Did my system panic? If so, why no message in /var/log/messages? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjchome@xxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines