I'm seeking advice on the use of "plain old dialup" pppd and Network Manager. My internet access is provided by 56kbit/s dialup modem on /dev/ttyS0 on a desktop pc which also has an ethernet NIC that gives CUPS, backup, NFS, internet services to another notebook pc. DSL is not available here due to poor line quality. I currently have dialup pppd working in Fedora 9. Back then I was not able to find a comprehensive or current Howto but I did get it working by reading widely and manually editing these files /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/resolv.conf /etc/host.conf /etc/ppp/pap-secrets /etc/ppp/peers/my_isp (wvdial with --remotename --chat options) /etc/ppp/options /etc/ppp/my_chat_script /etc/wvdial.conf Back then I uninstalled F9 Network Manager because it seemed that it and/or system-config-network was interfering with some of the above files. I now want to progress to Fedora 12. I will do a clean installation. So I'm just asking here first to see if there is a better way than my previous approach above. I noticed that NetworkManager in F12 included Wireless Broadband support, I hoped that it might also be useable for plain old dialup. I found a reference: http://www.linux.co.uk/docs/center/how-to/how-to-get-online-with-3g-broadband that it looks possible to specify the modem device port somewhere in NetworkManager. However I am unable to find anywhere to do this in F12 Network Manager Applet 0.7.996. Maybe the manual configuration option was dropped in favour of the wizard approach. My questions are: I need to use pppd via /dev/ttyS0 dialup modem in Fedora 12. 1) Should I disable Network Manager ? 2) Or is there a way to have Network Manager cooperate with serial device modem connections ? 3) Is Network Manager likely to have this capability in future ? Or is it considered obsolete ? 4) Have I overlooked any Howto that assists with use of pppd with serial device modems on F12 ? Thanks David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines