Re: Fedora 12: Install: 3D Graphics System Problems Still

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On 11/17/2009 03:53 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
I have just done some test installs of Fedora 12 on two different
hardware platforms using: Fedora-12-i686-Live-KDE.iso via a
USB stick.

The installs went fine and the install experience was good and
relatively quick. I have not had a good look at the system yet,
but superficially it looks fine.

However, there are some serious graphics issues still, at least
on the two systems I have test installed onto.

System 1:
With: With: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
With: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
Boot sometimes fails with a message like "drm: ... tried to release a fb
we did not own"
glxgears runs fine at 999FPS
blender locks up the X (system still running but unable to kill X)
Not sure if PulseAudio is working (GUI messages stating problems)


System 2:
ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series]
With: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R)
Fails at boot 30% of the time. locks up with black screen
glxgears runs at 0.8FPS !!
blender runs (I think) but takes > 5mins to display the first screen
Not sure if PulseAudio is working (GUI messages stating problems)

This is not good. The 3D graphics system, appears to me, to be still
severely broken. In fact there are also 2D problems now (lock ups)
which were not there in F11.
A lot of people have obviously done a lot of good and hard work on F12,
but it looks like the graphics system is going to let them and the
system down again.

I really think some serious work needs to be done to stabilise the
graphics system. This includes much better QA. I note that F12 is
using Mesa 7.7-devel even though the RPM's are 7.6-0.13. I thought
that 7.6 was now a stable branch and 7.7 an experimental branch ?
Couldn't F12 use 7.6 and feedback issues on this to get a stable release ?

There were no real 3D graphics updates in F11, is this going to be
the same for F12 ?
I will try F12 on some other systems, but if there are not going to be
any updates that fix the 3D graphics issues in F12, I for one cannot
use the system and will have to stick with F8 or find something better.

Terry

I have just tried the Fedora-12-i686-Live-KDE.iso on an IBM Thinkpad R52
which uses an ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300].

Again F12 boots fine, however 3D graphics is still broken.
glxgears runs at 450FPS. This is fine but is 50% of the speed in F11.
blender: This runs ! However the pop up menus are not working properly
with the highlighted item not being under the cursor and also are slow.

On the 3 different systems I have installed F12 on, 3D graphics has problems
at least with Blender. I will try a couple more systems today ...

I spent a lot of my time debugging and feeding back 3D issues in F11
and I was just one among many others. The menu offset bug was actually fixed,
I believe, in the GIT trees. However, none of the bug fixing work
performed was ever packaged as an update for F11 and thus 3D
graphics remained broken in that release.

Is this going to be the same for F12 ?
I think there should be a real push in F12 to get the graphics system fixed
with all of the updates being made available for F12.

Are there any comments on why the Mesa code is 7.7 although the RPMS are 7.6 ?

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