On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:34 AM, William Case <billlinux@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi; > > I have the 102 page Intel Data Sheet in front of me. I am trying to > determine the High and Low voltage numbers for transistors on my > system. > > I am not trying to do anything mysterious or build a CPU in my garage. > I am just doing a small write up for myself that has an introductory > paragraph for a section on how DRAM memory works that says something > like "My machine's CPU and Memory transistors typically use XXX volts > when thrust High and XXX volts when driven Low." I understand that > things can get more complex, but I am only trying to establish a sense > or feel of what is happening inside, not write a technical manual for > engineers. > > All the various Vtt, Vcc, Vss, VID etc. are getting confusing. I will > either have to spend a couple of days googling trying to interpret the > Data Sheet or take a short cut by asking here. > > What designation or parameters should I be looking at for high and low > voltage (logical/binary 1 and logical/binary 0)? > > I am using the Intel 318732.pdf {Core 2 Duo Processor Data Sheet}. Somewhat off topic for this list .. I have no expertise in this but out of curiousity I had a look at the datasheet. My conclusions are below. No doubt there will be others here with greater expertise who are welcome to correct any errors. Reference: http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/318732.pdf The intent of the datasheet is to describes its interfaces, not its internal operation. 1) Table 2: the processor outputs a byte that controls the regulator to provide it a supply voltage VCC in the range 0.5 to 1.6 V. 2) Table 4 Note 7: VTT is the databus (frontside bus FSB) fixed reference voltage. It does not vary. 3) Table 3: VTT absmax = 1.45V 4) Table 4: VTT typical = 1.2V 5) Section 2.7: The databus uses GTL+. The "0 or 1" reference threshold for input voltages is GTLREF which is derived from VTT by a simple resistive divider. 6) Table 15: With resistors 57.6 and 100 ohm: GTLREF=VTT*100/(57.6+100)=0.76V 7) So for the databus: Table 11: (approx) 0 < VIL < GTLREF (VIL = voltage detected as 0 = below 0.76V) Table 11: (approx) GTLREF < VIH < VTT (VIH = voltage detected as 1 = above 0.76V) Table 11: (approx) VOH = VTT (VOH = voltage output for 1 = 1.2V) I could not see any VOL (voltage output for 0) for the FSB in this datasheet. 8) Table 12 and Table 13 specify open-drain and cmos interfaces which use different voltages. Background docs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunning_Transceiver_Logic http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/scea003a/scea003a.pdf (mentions VOL < 0.4V for GTL+) Hope this is useful. David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines