Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > # service paranoia start > OK so the two machines conspired to fail in the same 12 hour period soon > after some updates - it is a hardware conspiracy! Now I know... > > Now I'll just have to make sure I don't update my phone, TV, or anything > else just in case they are part of the same plot! > # service paranoia stop > OK I have been working on this tonight - it turned out that my wife had the presence of mind to write down what was on the screen of her machine when it failed - and it was not as fatal/terminal as my own machine's problem. In my wife's case she reported that when hitting the enter key to login under kdm the screen went black, and this was followed by a cursor at top right and repeated lines containing text, with "nouveau_fifo_free:freeing fifo 1" So this appears to have been a graphics issue concerning the nouveau driver - however this evening I was able to boot this machine and am running on the previous kernel for safety. (2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAE) I have not yet sought to investigate whether there were changes in the new kernel (kernel-PAE-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686) that relate to the nouveau driver - however I have never until now had any graphics related issues with this machine and it does have an Nvidia 8300GS card. The other machine is extinct - I cannot boot at all even to a liveCD so I can't investigate it. However at the time that failed there were weird graphics artifacts with multicoloured lines - and it is conceivable that it could have also been a graphics issue - on boot it puts port00: after the first message on the screen, and then some stuff on the screen (after the post check complets) but no boot - I tried partedmagic DVD but it won't boot at all. I suppose that the disc could have gone bad and over the weekend will replace the drive and see if that allows a boot and re-install - but I am out of ideas on that... however the nouveau failure on my wife's machine worries me.... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26120073.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines