Re: When will totem play Apple.com/trailers again?

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On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 22:00, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:01 -0200, Andre Costa wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 19:59, Patrick O'Callaghan
> <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 12:49 -0700, john wendel wrote:
>         > On 10/24/2009 09:44 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>         > > On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 09:41 -0700, john wendel wrote:
>         > >>> I find it interesting that the Apple TV ads do play on
>         F11, which is
>         > >> an
>         > >>> admission that QT is a niche format.
>         > >>>
>         > >>> poc
>         > >>>
>         > >>
>         > >> I just installed gecko-mediaplayer (F11) and it plays the
>         trailers at
>         > >> apple.com just fine.
>         > >
>         > > If you mean the TV ads, then that's what I said. If you
>         mean the other
>         > > stuff, e.g. http://www.apple.com/imac/the-new-imac/#small
>         then no, and I
>         > > do have gecko-mediaplayer installed.
>         > >
>         > > poc
>         > >
>         >
>         > No, I mean the trailers at www.apple.com/trailers. I just
>         player the HD
>         > version of the trailer for "Red Cliff". Worked perfectly. I
>         also tried
>         > your imac url. It also played (but it was too boring to
>         watch more that
>         > 2 minutes of the 7:09).
>
>
>         The movie trailers do work. The Apple promo stuff doesn't
>         (except for
>         the TV ads as I said).
>
>         > Do you have the full mplayer codec pack installed?
>
>
>         I believe so, but since it's not an RPM I'd have to check the
>         files one
>         by one. The latest codecs tarball on the Mplayer site is a
>         couple of
>         years old so I doubt that's the problem.
>
> AFAIK you only need to have all the gstreamer-plugins-* packages (and,
> of course, their dependencies). Here's what I have:
>
>
> ~ rpm -qa | grep gstreamer-plugins
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.13-7.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64
>
>
> (BTW I had to install some of them -- the "ugly" package IIRC -- by
> hand, dependencies were not being pulled automatically)

$ rpm -qa \*gstreamer-plugins\*
gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.13-7.fc11.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.15-4.fc11.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.25-1.fc11.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-6.fc11.x86_64

Looks identical.

> I just replaced totem-mozplugin with gecko-mediaplayer, and trailers
> are playing just fine again.

I had both of them for some reason. Once I removed totem-mozplugin and
restarted FF, the Apple stuff worked.

Most likely this was the problem: probably totem-mozplugin was being picked instead of gecko-mediaplayer.
 
> This is good because there's a way out after all, but on the other
> hand this is bad for totem (and Fedora) since it means that default
> installations will fail to play the trailers (question: will this be
> the case for F12 as well?), and on the user's eyes it will be one of
> those cases where Fedora is "quite not there yet".
>
>
> I just did some quick searching on Fedora bugzilla to see if this has
> already been filed as a totem or totem-mozplugin bug, but did not find
> anything. Does anyone know if it's already there? If it's not,
> developers have all the reasons not to have addressed it yet... :-(

Default installations are never going to have the non-free codecs in any
case. The user will always have to install them for himself.

You're right. What I meant is that, even if you install the codecs (which are automatically suggested if you try to watch a trailer), it won't work until you replace the default media player plugin for another one. That's one step further, it's not intuitive and shouldn't be necessary IMHO.

Regards,

Andre
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