Re: F11: Spooky network manager

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On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 05:25 -0700, Craig White wrote: 
> On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 06:05 -0400, lanas wrote:
> > Le jeudi, 15 Oct 2009 17:57:39 -0700,
> > Craig White <craigwhite@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> > 
> > > sounds to me like you already stored the AP's WPA key in your stored
> > > keyring and only need to enter the stored keyring password to handle
> > > the authentication.
> > 
> > Indeed.
> > 
> > > your problem isn't network manager, it's understanding what keyrings
> > > do and why they are useful (or in your case, making you crazy).
> > > 
> > > As user...
> > > 
> > > rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
> > 
> > The only file in that directory is named login.keyring.
> > 
> > Is this keyring similar in concept to the KDE kwallet (I do not use
> > gnome at all - all users' first sessions are in KDE, gnome never
> > actually starts) ?  If so, I use kwallet everyday.  The nice think
> > about it is that there's an initialization phase at the very beginning
> > in which the user is asked to create a password.
> > 
> > With the keyring what I find is odd, is that it seemingly uses a
> > password that was never created by the user.  Or, a default password I
> > wouldn't try, like 'admin'.  I've entered all three passwords that I
> > created related to the laptop (several times to be sure I haven't made
> > any typos) and none satisfied the keyring master.  root, user and AP
> > passwords.  There are no other passwords related to this context.
> > 
> > > that gets you back to the start. Then the next time it asks you for a
> > > password for your 'keyring' - pay attention to what you enter. I think
> > > if you use the same password as your login, you don't have ever enter
> > > it again.
> > 
> > So, should I delete this login.keyring file ?  I'm porceeding with care
> > here since this laptop is a gift and the birthday is coming near.  I
> > wouldn't want to screw things up badly at this point.
> > 
> > In parallel I will try Aaron's suggestion and use the plain network
> > management utility.  I'd sure would like to use the latest technology,
> > though as it surely is better (sarcasm, a bit).
> ----
> 1. NetworkManager is a Gnome application and I think uses the gnome
> keyrings anyway. I also use KDE and see the same thing as you
> (.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring)  - Delete this file or simply move it
> if you worry about deleting. It will be recreated the next time it asks
> you for a password on NetworkManager.
> 
> 2. Aaron is giving you nothing of usefulness. A laptop should use
> NetworkManager for connecting to wireless networks...that's one of the
> things that it is designed to do. 
I agree with the above comment . I was just answering the OP question. I
should added that was not the way to go. My mistake. 
> 
> Your problem has been with not realizing that keyrings have one
> password, Wireless AP's have their own password and that they are not
> the same.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
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