Hi; Is there no way around having to restart after some upgrade downloads like a new kernel or the recent gfs upgrades? I have no solutions to offer other than some amateur passing thoughts. Nor do I find restarting a particularly onerous burden in Fedora. However, by way of comparison, I dual boot into WindowsXP about once every two weeks. I swear, honest to God, I spend about 45 minutes getting all the automatic M$ updates plus the latest anti-virus updates before I can begin to do something. The normal M$ process of upgrading/updating usually requires 1-4 restarts. It is all very annoying. Even though I don't have to worry about such things anymore, I am sure employers who use Windows must be tearing their hair out watching each employee sitting around for 45 minutes while their machines are updated. So, what does this have to do with Fedora and Linux in general. It would probably be a great bonus if Linux could figure out a way to upgrade without the annoying and obvious routine of having to reboot. Rebooting reminds users too much of M$ type of annoyances. I would like to describe the kind of thing I have in mind, but in no way am I putting the following idea forward as a solution. It is for explanation purposes only. Can upgrades that will interfere with the running kernel not be stored in swap, for example, and then slowly replace each process that is not running; that is, on hard disk or sleeping in memory until the upgrade is completed? If needed, perhaps a brief view of the start flash screen and loading timer bar without an overt shutdown and restart? What are the arguments against this kind of thing? -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines