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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Is RhythmBox fixed yet? (William Case)
>    2. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (James Allsopp)
>    3. Re: can't boot fresh install (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
>    4. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    5. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (Tim)
>    6. F9: Yum updates (Daniel B. Thurman)
>    7. Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up (James Allsopp)
>    8. Re: F9: Yum updates (Rahul Sundaram)
>    9. Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it
>       (devesh gade)
>   10. Re: F9: Yum updates (Daniel B. Thurman)
>   11. F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)?
>       (Daniel B. Thurman)
>   12. Re: F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)?
>       (Rahul Sundaram)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:52:28 -0400
> From: William Case 
> Subject: Is RhythmBox fixed yet?
> To: Fedora List 
> Message-ID: <1249912349.31806.29.camel@CASE>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Hi;
> 
> I have seen no more complaints about RhythmBox not finding removable
> media. i.e. CD music disks in CD/DVD drives.  Did I miss something?
> Has this problem been fixed?
> 
> I saw some hacks for PulseAudio suggested here, but I have PulseAudio
> removed so they wouldn't help me.
> 
> I made sure I was completely updated before posting this query.
> -- 
> Regards Bill
> Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3
> Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 22.3.1
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:10:05 +0100
> From: James Allsopp 
> Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,    and advice for using
>     Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <4A802A3D.6060101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> 
> 
> David L wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Tim wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 10:39 +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> >>> My Fedora 10 machine locks up X completely, but I can still login via
> >>> SSH. The monitor still shows the X window, but nothing changes, no
> >>> clock, mouse nothing. X processes are still running, but not sure how to
> >>> go about shutting them down. Last night, I tried to get the system to
> >>> shut down sanely by running shutdown -h now and although the command ran
> >>> and I couldn't login via ssh anymore, the machine did not shut down.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone tell me how to shutdown and restart X properly. Tried things
> >>> like startx( had a x lock file exists error) and init 3, but nothing worked.
> >> If X hadn't completely locked up, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE would have
> >> restarted X (that is BACKSPACE, the delete key that deletes to the left,
> >> not the DEL key that deletes to the right).
> >>
> >> If the keyboard was still being listened to, then CTRL+ALT+DEL should
> >> have rebooted (perhaps after hammering away at the keys a lot), as a
> >> second option instead of CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE.
> > 
> > 
> > I've seen similar symptoms ... for me, the keyboard is usually
> > dead I think, so any recovery procedure would have to be done
> > remotely through an ssh session.  I'm not sure if it's a valid way
> > to tell for sure, but I usually try the caps lock/num lock to see if
> > the little lights toggle to see if the keyboard is dead.  Whenever
> > they don't toggle, control-alt-* hasn't worked for me.  Even the
> > sys rq REISUB trick did nothing.  I've never tried unplugging
> > the USB keyboard and plugging it back in... I wonder if that could
> > help recover the keyboard.
> > 
> > Even if control-alt-backspace did work, my understanding was
> > that it was disabled by default in f11, but the poster was running
> > f10, so that's not his problem.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >             David
> > 
> Thank you for all your help; much appreciated. You're correct in
> thinking that the keyboard doesn't respond to ctrl-alt-backspace, I've
> tried that. I'll try the kill X next time, but last time I did that it
> seemed to corrupt my boot partition and I had to use a rescue disk.
> 
> TBH, my system is getting increasingly unstable (1 hard lock up per
> day). I'm going to try and memtest, see how it gets on with a couple of
> hours unreal tournament in windows to check the hardware, and if that
> doesn't work I'll try upgrading to F11. If that doesn't work, new
> re-install time, but I've not really got the time for that.
> 
> On my gentoo system, if things go awry, you can just tell it to rebuild
> everything, is there a similar option to reinstall all the core packages
> with fedora?
> 
> Anyway, thanks for your time with this problem. Much appreciated,
> James
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:12:27 -0500
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" 
> Subject: Re: can't boot fresh install
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,    and advice for using
>     Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <4A802ACB.7050702@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Alan Evans wrote:
> > 
> > Ok. Given the totality of my experience so far combined with the many
> > replies I've received in this thread, I was inclined to believe that
> > starting with a Mac-formatted disk was really causing me serious
> > trouble.
> > 
> > I really need a working system here, so i decided to save an image of
> > the hard drive and start fresh. I dd'd the hard drive onto another,
> > external drive in case I ever wanted it back, then I used fdisk to fix
> > the apparently broken partition table. For good measure, I even
> > created a dummy partition and ran mke2fs on it to assure the drive was
> > in good shape.
> > 
> Instead of using fdisk, use parted to create an empty partition, and
> then copy your installed partition back to the drive. parted will
> take care of all the little booking details so tha things should
> work. It is also faster then dd because it does not need to copy the
> unused parts of the partition - it understands file systems.
> 
> Mikkel
> -- 
> 
>   Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:50:53 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" 
> Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up
> To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <1249914053.2127.12.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:10 +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> > On my gentoo system, if things go awry, you can just tell it to
> > rebuild
> > everything, is there a similar option to reinstall all the core
> > packages
> > with fedora?
> 
> You can verify installed rpms:
> 
> # rpm -V ...
> 
> See rpm(1) for more options and how to interpret the results.
> 
> poc
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:02:00 +0930
> From: Tim 
> Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,    and advice for using
>     Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <1249914720.8618.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:10 +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> > I'll try the kill X next time, but last time I did that it
> > seemed to corrupt my boot partition and I had to use a rescue disk.
> 
> That sounds like there's something seriously screwy with your system if
> killing X can screw up a partition that's not even being used (boot is
> practically ignored, once you've booted up).
> 
> > TBH, my system is getting increasingly unstable (1 hard lock up per
> > day). I'm going to try and memtest, see how it gets on with a couple
> > of hours unreal tournament in windows to check the hardware, and if
> > that doesn't work I'll try upgrading to F11. If that doesn't work, new
> > re-install time, but I've not really got the time for that.
> 
> Check cooling (stuck fans, blocked fans, heatsinks full of dust,
> heatsinks not well attached to hot parts).
> 
> Check the power supply (harder to do if you're non-technical), and that
> it's adequate for your hardware.  If you've been adding things, you may
> have added too much.
> 
> You could have flakey hardware, or flakey drivers for specific hardware.
> You could leave the computer running in run level 3, doing some hard
> work, to try and eliminate the graphics hardware.
> 
> -- 
> [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
> 
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:26:46 -0700
> From: "Daniel B. Thurman" 
> Subject: F9: Yum updates
> To: Fedora Users 
> Message-ID: <4A803C36.3050702@xxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> 
> How can one tell when the updates were last
> issued?  Seems that I have not had an update
> for F9 for quite some time.  Just wanted to
> make sure there is not a problem with my
> yum programs, thanks!
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:29:04 +0100
> From: James Allsopp 
> Subject: Re: Recovering from a hard X lock up
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,    and advice for using
>     Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <4A803CC0.9090002@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> 
> Tim wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:10 +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> >> I'll try the kill X next time, but last time I did that it
> >> seemed to corrupt my boot partition and I had to use a rescue disk.
> > 
> > That sounds like there's something seriously screwy with your system if
> > killing X can screw up a partition that's not even being used (boot is
> > practically ignored, once you've booted up).
> > 
> >> TBH, my system is getting increasingly unstable (1 hard lock up per
> >> day). I'm going to try and memtest, see how it gets on with a couple
> >> of hours unreal tournament in windows to check the hardware, and if
> >> that doesn't work I'll try upgrading to F11. If that doesn't work, new
> >> re-install time, but I've not really got the time for that.
> > 
> > Check cooling (stuck fans, blocked fans, heatsinks full of dust,
> > heatsinks not well attached to hot parts).
> > 
> > Check the power supply (harder to do if you're non-technical), and that
> > it's adequate for your hardware.  If you've been adding things, you may
> > have added too much.
> > 
> > You could have flakey hardware, or flakey drivers for specific hardware.
> > You could leave the computer running in run level 3, doing some hard
> > work, to try and eliminate the graphics hardware.
> > 
> 
> I'm going to check the cooling tonight. I'm running an old nvidia FX5200
> card with the legacy nvidia drivers.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions,
> James
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:58:26 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram 
> Subject: Re: F9: Yum updates
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,    and advice for using
>     Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <4A803C9A.2000805@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On 08/10/2009 08:56 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> > 
> > How can one tell when the updates were last
> > issued?  Seems that I have not had an update
> > for F9 for quite some time.  Just wanted to
> > make sure there is not a problem with my
> > yum programs, thanks!
> 
> Fedora 9 has reached End of Life for sometime now.
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life
> 
> You need to upgrade to Fedora 10 or 11 to continue receiving updates.
> 
> Rahul
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:05:56 +0530
> From: devesh gade 
> Subject: Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,    and advice for using
>     Fedora." 
> Message-ID:
>     <7704e360908100835p9bf6a26wcb2d2ac303db569f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> hello...sorry for being late....
> anyways,the output  of the fdisk -l command is as folows:
> 
>                   Boot      Start     End        Id            System
> /dev/sda1       *         ....           ....        ...
> HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda2                  ...         ...          ...               Linux
> /dev/sda3                 .....         ....         ....             Linux
> LVM
> /dev/sda4                 ....         ....         .....             W95
> Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda5                 ...          ...             ...
> HPFS/NTFS
> 
> Once the system mounted on /mnt/sysimage ,I performed the following steps:
> On running the 'grub-install /dev/sda1' comand, the output is
> Unrecognized command /sbin/grub
> On running 'whereis grub-install' i get output as
> grub-install:/usr/sbin/grub-install
> 
> Then i use this path to run the command,however it gives same output as in
> the first case.
> Please corect me if i have gone wrong anywhere above.
> So the question remains-how do i install the grub??
> 
> 
> On 07/08/2009, Tim wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 00:44 +0530, devesh gade wrote:
> > > Inserted installation cd in rescue mode and then following commands at
> > > the prompt:
> > > 1 grub
> > > 2 root (hd0,0)
> > > 3 setup (hd0)
> > > 4 exit
> > > 5 reboot
> > >
> > > However even after rebooting the grub screen does not show up at
> > > startup and Windows XP boots by default.
> >
> > Obvious questions:
> >
> > Is hd0,0 the right drive and partition to work on?
> > Do you have more than one drive?
> >
> > Running "fdisk -l" can list all the available drives and partitions, you
> > could post the output, here.
> >
> > --
> > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
> >
> > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> > read messages from the public lists.
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:36:30 -0700
> From: "Daniel B. Thurman" 
> Subject: Re: F9: Yum updates
> To: sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Community assistance, encouragement,
>     and advice for using Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <4A803E7E.2050107@xxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 08/10/2009 08:56 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >  
> >> How can one tell when the updates were last
> >> issued?  Seems that I have not had an update
> >> for F9 for quite some time.  Just wanted to
> >> make sure there is not a problem with my
> >> yum programs, thanks!
> >>    
> >
> > Fedora 9 has reached End of Life for sometime now.
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life
> >
> > You need to upgrade to Fedora 10 or 11 to continue receiving updates.
> >
> > Rahul
> >
> >  
> Ok!  Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:39:30 -0700
> From: "Daniel B. Thurman" 
> Subject: F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)?
> To: Fedora Users 
> Message-ID: <4A803F32.6030802@xxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> 
> As the subject says.  I was wondering if there
> are any plans to fix the gnome session saves
> for F10?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:11:25 +0530
> From: Rahul Sundaram 
> Subject: Re: F10: Is there any plans to fix gnome-session (saves)?
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,    and advice for using
>     Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <4A803FA5.5040403@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On 08/10/2009 09:09 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> > 
> > As the subject says.  I was wondering if there
> > are any plans to fix the gnome session saves
> > for F10?
> 
> Unlikely. It would have happened by now otherwise. Fedora 11 does fix
> this problem however.
> 
> Rahul
> 
> 
> 
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