> I tried a simple google search and came up empty, but I'm sure there is > a method to change the desktop file plasmoid so it covers the entire > desktop and behaves similar to KDE3.x. I'm sure. With Linux, there's always a way but I won't spend a month looking for the solution, mainly given that if teh solution is so hard to find for such a fundamental preference, there will be a sleuth of research to be done to get acquainted with the rest of the mess. It would be so easy to add an option for people who don't like this way of doing things. > I can't understand why anyone would want to. > > Perhaps the "common sense" in this particular instance would be learning > how the software works, so you can take advantage of the legacy features > that the developers put in, rather than lament that they aren't there. When you have to learn too much, mainly for something so fundamental, it means the software is a badly designed. People have other things to do in life than search. > For me, nothing beats a clean desktop, and alt-F2. :) I used to think like you. I would download every file where it belongs. Then I saw how the son of a friend managed his files on a Mac: he was saving everything to the desktop. I decided to this way of doing things and it turned out that, after a week, when the desktop gets so cluttered that you don't enjoy the background picture anymore, about ¾ of the files may be deleted. The other ones often belong to the same folder, where it was previously very easy to move them with KDE 3, as there was a menu with the file structure. The advantage is you don't have to go through every folder for cleaning. I first cleaning is done every week or so. That's the way I think of keeping my system clean. It has nothing to do with the Desktop. This worked very well for me with KDE3. I rarely downloaded files to a specific directory. I could reinstall KDE3 but, since I have some KDE applications installed, it might also turn my system into a mess and GNOME is OK. So, I prefer not. Everything works fine now. I wish KDE developers lots of success with their new "features". For now, they don't seem to catch up much. Maybe they should figure that when Torvalds, who always despised GNOME for being childish, decides to move to GNOME, there's a real problem. And, I figure that's the way to protest: you just don't use software that you find silly. As you say, there's Pepsi and there's Coke. Companies generally react to how customers accept their products. They never say: "They don't understand". They test their products with customers even before introducing them widely on the market. I'm afraid KDE has never done this and is not planning to do it either. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines