On Monday 20 July 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> Because I have lost entire installs when running lvm 3 damned times. > >Are you sure it was lvm3 instead of say screwed up disk I/O? > No Wolfgang, lvm and/or lvm2, on 3 separate occasions. Sorry I worded that poorly, I had smoke coming out of both ears when I read, and wrote that reply. >My gripe with lvm3 is more philosophical -- it provides a silly service, >namely allowing me to combine the failure modes of all of my disks and >if any one of them fails, my FS is toast. I just put a separate lmv3 on >each disk (in passive-aggressive fashion) and ignore that lvm is there. > >(And yes, I did learn the hard way too when a 600Gig filesystem spanning >3 Seagate 200G disks developed an intermittent controller card on one of >the disks.) > >> You (speaking generally) all thought it was hilarious when they decide >> to remap all the drives with the next iteration of the kernel and >> everyone using tar for backups needs to run 5-7 sessions the next day >> to restore order & get a fresh level 0 on everything. > >;-) > >I did quite a bit of head scratching figuring that one out too. > >> Yeah, I know, this IS fedora, and we are supposed to bleed for the >> community good. If I'm going to bleed, I want it to be something >> stupid _I_ did. > >I guess my philosophy is the other way around. If I'm going to trip >over a bug, I'd really prefer for it to be something some other person >has already entered into bugzilla. It pays to be a sheep -- in the >center of the herd. ;-) I'd druther learn that _I_ did something stupid, so I don't do that again. :) OTOH, if its already in bz, and a fix promulgated, then it isn't really a problem if it doesn't destroy something. Unforch, lvm and the device mapper have been a royal PIMA to me with lots of collateral damage, so I simply don't do that, cuz it feels so good when I stop. :) I don't see myself as the sheep in the middle, never have been in 74 years. I'm the canary in the coal mine, or the shepard with a long hook maybe. Sorta goes with the age I am I guess. >-wolfgang >-- >Wolfgang S. Rupprecht Android 1.5 (Cupcake) and Fedora-11 -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> The whole earth is in jail and we're plotting this incredible jailbreak. -- Wavy Gravy -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines