On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 09:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 21:21 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 10:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > > Every so often I come into work to find Thunderbird prompting for my > > > > Gmail password. When I supply it, I get a message saying > > > > "imap.googlemail.com is not a valid IMAP4 server." - a thunderbird > > > > restart cures this. > > > > > > It was fairly clear to me that this is a problem with Gmail and not > > > Evolution, and now you have effectively confirmed it. The fact that it's > > > so easy to correct (even if it *is* Gmail's fault) is why I reported it > > > to the Evo BZ. > > ---- > > I surely believe that there are some timeout issues occasionally with > > Gmail and don't dispute what you are suggesting but in the past two > > days, since I have turned off TLS, Evolution has not hung on my IMAP > > server. I recognize that it isn't possible to use Gmail/IMAP without SSL > > but I strongly suspect that some of your problems are rooted in SSL/TLS > > with Evolution. > > > > I may play around with adding my gmail account to Evolution after I go > > another day without SSL/TLS in Evolution to see if it hangs but it > > hasn't hung on me in the last day and half since I turned it off. > > Both my IMAP accounts use SSL, not TLS. That includes Gmail. The only > hangs are with Gmail, not with the other account. I think we are seeing > two different problems here. There may well be a TLS problem, but there > is also a Gmail problem orthogonal to that. > > Gmail is unlike most IMAP servers out there in several respects, due to > its underlying model being so different (e.g. labels instead of folders, > the way deletion is managed etc.), but they do try to map their model > onto what IMAP expects. However the fact that you aren't talking to a > single server is possibly the key to the problem, i.e. at any given time > you are talking to one server, but the server can change from one moment > to the next. What happens if the server changes while an IMAP connection > is still open, such as is very likely to happen with Evo given that it > keeps IMAP connections open for long periods of time even when no > traffic is flowing? I don't think anyone outside of Google really knows, > and that's where I would look first. ---- I am quite well aware that Gmail uses SSL and not TLS. I added the Gmail account to my setup to see if it takes down just Gmail or both. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
