Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 18:20 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Thanks, but I did a lot of research prior to figuring this out and the
consensus is that Fedora 10 left out xorg.conf for a reason and that it
is not a good idea to use that approach anymore because it conflicts
with the new approach.
No, the "reason" was that someone decided that it wasn't needed and someone
might screw it up if they had it. The Windows "we know what you want on your
computer" approach. Trust me, for some hardware configurations you absolutely
need it, the autoconfig simply isn't up to properly handling some displays.
You must have missed the long thread (this thread) that's been going on
with this discussion.
You didn't see my name in them? About 30% of my hardware works less than
optimally (or not at all) w/o xorg.conf. I believe (based on what I read) it's
also needed to allow connecting a monitor to a netbook as well, otherwise you
have to boot with the monitor connected and powered up every time to have it
configured.
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The 'autoconfig' approach as you term it is not about Windows - it's
about ease of use. When the system just works as you change hardware
it's a lot easier for the end user than having to send the user into say
runlevel 3, system-config-display --reconfig and then reboot.
I'm a lot more unhappy with leaving out the ability to do that. If
system-config-display is at least installed the user has the tool, and doesn't
need to install from command line. Not creating xorg.conf is reasonable, but if
it doesn't work and you need xorg.conf you always need the tool.
The great thing about Linux is that if it doesn't work for you, you can
be part of the solution by reporting your issues through systems like
bugzilla, detail your hardware and the issues it presents so they can
implement the necessary code so it does work in the future.
If there is a way to use bugzilla without X for a browser, I bet fewer than 1%
of all users know what it is. And not everyone has a second system to use.
Yes, it's not perfect. I notice that on my Acer Aspire One netbook, if I
boot up in Windows without having the monitor connected, it doesn't work
all that well either so I'm not convinced that there's much of a
difference. What I can do in Windows that I'm seemingly incapable of
doing on F10 is to create a virtual screen larger than the actual
1024x600 and I would be grateful if someone could hit me with the clue
stick here.
I'm not just making a point here, but I think you need an entry in xorg.conf. I
haven't done that since about X11R5 or so, but I think the option was something
like "ViewPort" which was the physical (display) window size. I could be
misremembering, that might be the virtual size, but it gives you somewhere to
look. Do let us know if you find it.
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
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