As in cleaned it all out, leaving only 1 of 20 some old entries I had in it. I know a kernel update used to play with the default & fallback entries and would delete 2 versions back, but it left the rest of the file alone so the formatting damage was generally minor to fix. Having it delete 20 some entries that I'll have to re-create if I want to test something against an older kernel is uncalled for. Also, a recent ntp update removed /etc/rc3.d/S58ntpd, another bad show, and explains why I don't see anything from ntpd in my logs till I started it by hand after a reboot. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "In matters of principle, stand like a rock; in matters of taste, swim with the current." -- Thomas Jefferson -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines