Thanks, I didn't go looking for grub documentation, that is helpful. Since some of the boxes I administer are servers and dedicated to one task or another I have mostly defeated NetworkManager. I understand the logic for it, I just find it evil more often than not. Modifying startup scripts has been easier for me. On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:27 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 20:50 -0600, David R Wilson wrote: > > Hello fellows, > > > > My .02 worth on several subjects. > > > > Network Manager since FC8 has been causing more grief to me than it is > > worth. It looks like it needs to look at > > the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ files for eth0 and if it is there > > don't screw things up (or at least prompt before destruction). > ---- > NetworkManager intends to give 'userland' control over network > connections whether they are wired, wireless, VPN, etc. Users that are > accustomed to switching to superuser to manipulate things aren't likely > to appreciate the value of this whereas network administrators know that > these things are essential as they don't want users to have super user > powers. > ---- > > The startup screen with the travelling bars near the bottom of the > > screen is a waste of time. There is a reason I want to see what the box > > is doing, and prefer the FC9 behavior. With FC9 I could hit a key and > > watch for problems. I didn't find any documentation on how to change > > that to the FC9 behavior. > ---- > turn it off... > > edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and remove rhgb and quiet from the kernel boot > parameters > ---- > > Firefox refuses to handle a bad certificate. That is all well and good, > > until your dealing with a firewall that doesn't have one that is valid. > > I didn't find a way to get beyond the complaint about the certificate. > > I had to grab my laptop with FC9 to deal with that problem. FC10 made > > doing anything with the https interface impossible. > ---- > Firefox has made this a feature across the board and so FF 3 whether on > Windows, Linux or Macintosh will always throw this safety alert when > presented with certificates that are signed by untrusted authorities. > > Most people actually read their options and figure this out. This isn't > a Fedora issue at all. True. I should have looked for a Firefox list. I figured some of those involved in that project were lurking here. > Since you are struggling with the whole concept, see this... > > http://blog.ivanristic.com/2008/04/firefox-3-ssl-i.html > > Craig > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines