On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:46:54 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:28:19 -0700, > don fisher <hdf3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. [....] > You can't turn it off. However you can change things so that you see > console output during the boot. Remove 'quiet' and 'rhgb' from the > kernel entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf . [....] >> What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing >> startx. > > Maybe you want to boot in run level 3? If so you can add '3' to the > kernel paramters while you are editing grub.conf. It isn't clear what > you are really trying to do though, so it may be that switching to run > level 3 is not the correct answer. Not to speak for the OP (I'm no mind reader! Would that I were ...), but I asked a similar question here about F10 Beta on 11/2.07. I was advised to "remove rhgb," which I took to mean "yum remove rhgb," something I'd been doing for many, many releases, usually as the first thing at completion of an upgrade or install, even before updating; and it had always just worked. F10 translated to "yum remove plymouth" -- which takes mkinitrd and gdm! (I may yet try it, followed immediately by "yum install gdm mkinitrd" ....) I have to say, again, that this business of having to know a secret magic word (or keystroke) to do something is *not* to my mind a way to conserve user-friendliness. For my own part, I wouldn't be able to make head nor tail of 90% of the boot messages if you brought them down a mountain to me on stone stone tablets; but by watching long enough I have discovered several helpful things. Example : if I'm having connection problems for some reason, success with ntp tells me I do have a connection this time, and failure tells me I don't. Half a dozen such things are more than enough to save ten or fifteen minutes -- or to prevent losing a train of thought. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines