--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Mikkel L. Ellertson <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Mikkel L. Ellertson <mikkel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: root in FC 10 > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:54 PM > Fred Silsbee wrote: > > > > You don't see it do you! What you are proposing > would take a > > massive intricate system to protect people from > themselves. SELINUX > > is already a super mess duplicating controls already > in place and > > adding to the CPU burden. > > > One thing you seem to be missing - this is not only to > protect new > user from doing something stupid before they learn, but > also to > protect the rest of us from stupid mistakes by others. Or > would you > like to see botnets of Linux machines to go with the > Windows ones? > > I can just picture a newbee running as root, and running an > older > version of their web browser that has a known exploit, and > getting > something nasty installed. > > With the profit that can be made from compromised systems, > it would > be irresponsible to ship systems with insecure default > settings. > After all, we do not want to see Linux systems that are as > insecure > as Windows systems are by default. Running as root all the > tine > defeats most of the security of a Linux system. > > Mikkel > -- > > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, > for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines You don't see it do you! What you are proposing would take a massive intricate system to protect people from themselves. SELINUX is already a super mess duplicating controls already in place and adding to the CPU burden. that is why root has its own password Oregon once had a law prohibiting people pumping gas into their own cars. People moved to the NEW world to escape the OLD world...for freedom Let us put warnings on knives: "beware cutting yourself" replace lawnmower blades with weedeater cord drive to the pharmacy every time meds are due pad all steps in case somebody falls down What can we do for a bunch of angry arrogant little boys off their meds and skateboards learning a little bit about admin and becoming God! We can pad their rooms so they don't hurt themselves! Let them take up programming and THAT will put them in their place. Understanding concepts is the basis for intelligence -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
