On Thursday 02 October 2008, Kam Leo wrote: >On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thursday 02 October 2008, Kam Leo wrote: >>>On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> wrote: >>>> On Wednesday 01 October 2008, Kam Leo wrote: >>>>>On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Greetings; >>>>>> >>>>>> I built a new box yesterday, and one of the things I'm seeing is about >>>>>> a 10 second lag between the bios clearing the screen after doing its >>>>>> thing, and the "Loading Grub stage 2", which stays on screen for >>>>>> several seconds, then its blanked for another 10 secs or so, and >>>>>> finally the grub 'choice' menu comes up. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is with the new grub. One thing I had done on the previous mobo >>>>>> was to have just one entry in /boot/grub/devices, but I see that has >>>>>> been reset by something from /dev/sdb to /dev/sda, presumably by >>>>>> upgrading grub this morning. >>>>>> >>>>>> The bios is set to boot from the first ide, which is (hd0,0) I >>>>>> believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> What can I post that might be of interest?, just ask. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheers, Gene >>>>> >>>>>What new grub? As far as I am aware there has been no update to grub. >>>> >>>> The one that's been sitting in updates for 2-3 months, scared to install >>>> it because my drive mapping was fubar on that biostar mobo with its >>>> outboard sata controller. Now on this asus, it seems like hd0,0 is >>>> indeed /dev/sda1, aka /boot in the label. Anyway, it worked. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, Gene >>> >>>Why didn't you state that you were running F8? If it makes you feel >>>any better here is the changelog for grub-0.97-33.1-fc8: >> >> I thought I did at first, but CRS could make a liar out of me. Sorry. >> >>>Changelog >>> >>>* Thu May 29 2008 Peter Jones <pjones@xxxxxxxxxx> - 0.97-33.1 >>> - Backport F-9's grub to F-8. >>>* Tue Apr 08 2008 Peter Jones <pjones@xxxxxxxxxx> - 0.97-33 >>> - Rewrite ia32 efi call wrapper to make the makefile simpler. >>> >>>F9's grub is at 0.97-33. The previous version for F8 was 0.97-33. >> >> That is the same numbers. Typu? >> >>>Unless Peter Jones made some dramatic changes I don't see how this >>>backporting is going to adversely affect your system. >> >> Thanks. But this still does not explain why grub itself is so slow. >> >> After the bios is done, then the next thing one normally sees is the "Grub >> stage 2 loading", but I'm watching a monitor telling me there is no input >> drive for about 12 seconds between the bios clearing the screen, and that >> printout. >> >> And normally that just sort of flickers for a few milliseconds, but that >> now stays on screen for 2 or 3 seconds, then the screen is cleared again, >> and about 10 seconds later the boot choice menu finally pops up. This >> only took maybe 2 seconds total on the old motherboard, now it's a good >> 20-25 seconds from the bios clearing the screen to the boot selection >> menu. >> >> Its that time that I'm fussing about. >> >> -- >> Cheers, Gene > >Have you checked the boot order in your BIOS settings? This particular bios gives one the choice of media order, and I have HDISK set as first choice. In another menu, the onboard IDE is first choice, and on this ASUS mobo, there is only one ide socket/channel, followed by about 8 sata's, and I have a pata_sil plain pci ide card which addresses the other partitions as not all of this system is on the same drive. Presently, there is a 400 (372)GB Deathstar on sata1, and that is only used by amanda as its repository for a 30 directory virtual tapes setup. The output of df: [root@coyote linux-2.6.27-rc8-4]# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda3 470854808 25622460 420928416 6% / /dev/sdc2 143830328 6657620 129748672 5% /home /dev/sdc3 148522020 39811816 101043988 29% /usr /dev/sdc1 10426124 3147408 6740544 32% /var /dev/sdb1 384578164 332136332 32906392 91% /amandatapes /dev/sda1 248895 133498 102547 57% /boot tmpfs 2073508 0 2073508 0% /dev/shm /amandatapes was /dev/sdc on the old biostar mobo, and everything shown as /dev/sdc was formerly /dev/sdb. Since /dev/sdc is on a separate pata_sil controller and not included in the asus bios scan, I have not found a way to re-sort that to put all ide's before the first sata. It boots from /dev/sda1 & 3 as it always has, and there is swap on both sda and sdc. >Also do you >happen to have non-bootable media in your CD/DVD drive? Its a dual layer writer, and empty. At present, no floppy, and its disabled in the bios. I'm wondering now, if the mbr that initiates the boot to (hd0,0) is not on /dev/sda. That would make the bios search all drives for the partition marked as bootable. How can I verify that what is now /dev/sda, on the onboard ide connector, is actually the location of the grub stage 1 its using. I'm not fam enough with the contents of the mbr to be able to confirm/deny that, although I can use dd to dump them. Or maybe this bios, like scsi, has to scan all 8 sata channels before it starts on the remaining on-board ide. That used to cause a 49 second delay when scsi was set to scan all luns. Maybe I should check the asus site for a bios update? It would not be the first time I've bought a board with an old bios on it. Its an ASUS "M2N-SLI DELUXE" if that triggers any memories here. Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) wolf, n.: A man who knows all the ankles. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
