On Tuesday 09 September 2008 11:04:46 Paul Smith wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Tony Molloy <tony.molloy@xxxxx> wrote: > >> >> >> At booting, ntpdate fails to start, and also the following command > >> >> >> fails: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> # /sbin/service ntpdate start > >> >> >> ntpdate: Synchronizing with time server: > >> >> >> [FAILED] > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The log messages are: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sep 7 12:50:50 localhost ntpdate[2908]: the NTP socket is in use, > >> >> >> exiting > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Any ideas? > >> >> > > >> >> > Do you use NetworkManager to bring your network up? If so, it's > >> >> > not up in time for NTP to do its trick, and will be sort of running > >> >> > (freewheeling without synchronising to external servers) and > >> >> > preventing ntpdate from being usable. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, Tim, but how can I check it out? > >> > > >> > # service NetworkManager status > >> > > >> > will tell you if NetworkManager is running > >> > > >> > > >> > # service network status > >> > > >> > will tell you if the networkservice is running. > >> > > >> > You shouldn't have both running. > >> > > >> > Try the following and post the results > >> > > >> > # ntpq -p > >> > >> Thanks, Tony. The results: > >> > >> # /sbin/service NetworkManager status > >> NetworkManager (pid 2319) is running... > >> # > > > > OK, as someone in a previous e-mail said if NetworkManager is running > > then ntpdate will fail to start at boot as NetworkManager will not have > > the network set up in time. > > > > ntpdate sets the on your clock approx and then ntpd sets is accurately > > and maintains it. However if ntpdate doesn't run and your clock is off by > > more than a certain amount of time then ntpd will refuse to set it. I > > can't remember what amount of time is involved. > > > > What was the result of > > > > # service network status > > > >> # ntpq -p > >> bash: ntpq: command not found > >> # > > > > Do this as root or give the full path /usr/sbin/ntpq -p and post the > > results. > > > >> but > >> > >> # /sbin/service ntpd status > >> ntpd (pid 2049) is running... > >> # > > > > Ok it's running but not synhronising. > > Thanks again, Tony. The new results: > > # /sbin/service network status > Configured devices: > lo eth0 > Currently active devices: > lo eth0 vmnet8 vmnet1 > # > OK you have both the NetworkManager service and the network service running. You shouldn't have both running at the same time. Do you have a static IP address, is this a laptop. You can switch one or other service off with # service NetworkManager stop or # service network stop To make the change permanent and survive a reboot do # chkconfig --level 345 NetworkManager off or # chkconfig --level 345 newtork off > # /usr/sbin/ntpq -p > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > jitter > =========================================================================== >+ns2.kamino.fr 193.52.184.106 3 u 224 256 377 69.973 -1.349 > 1.928 -ntp2.belbone.be 195.13.23.6 2 u 205 256 377 86.313 -10.732 0.900 > +www.dreamcommun 194.109.22.18 3 u 241 256 377 > 82.750 -0.505 1.884 > *syrte8.obspm.fr 145.238.203.14 2 u 137 256 > 377 69.231 0.676 1.421 > > Paul What's the problem, ntpd is working. You're currently syncing with syrte8.obspm.fr the * before it in the above output tells you that. ntpdate is not really necessary if ntpd works. Tony -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines