Re: Can't switch to KDE

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On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 15:14 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>> > > Look, we have been at this too long.
>> >
>> > Agreed.
>> >
>> > > switchdesk changes the
>> > > file .Xclient-defaults but that file is not sourced on my machine. If
>> > > you know how to get it sourced when you login I will be glad to learn
>> > > something new.
>> >
>> > And I've been trying to explain that I don't use switchdesk because I
>> > get the right result by editing /etc/sysconfig/desktop, which for some
>> > reason isn't working for you.
>> >
>> > I suspect that if you find out why switchdesk doesn't work for you, you
>> > will also find out why my method doesn't work for you. The answer may be
>> > to do with your X setup, not with switchdesk or /etc/sysconfig/desktop.
>> >
>> > This is what is supposed to happen on F9 (note that this has changed a
>> > bit since F8):
>> >
>> > Boot goes to state 5
>> > ... which runs /etc/event.d/prefdm
>> > ... which runs /etc/X11/prefdm
>> > ... which consults /etc/sysconfig.desktop if present, and sets the
>> > desktop manager
>> > ... and then executes it.
>> > The desktop manager runs the login session
>> > ... then runs X as a child
>> >
>> > You might want to look at /var/log/messages to see what is actually
>> > happening.
>> >
>> > poc
>> >
>> You boot process stops to soon. Once you are in a login session we still
>> have the question of what window manager is launched when you login.
>> What do you think controls that?
>
> What do you think controls it? It's usually part of the X initialization
> process, which itself is run via xinit or startkde or whatever. The
> window manager is simply another X client. I say "usually" because you
> can have X running with *no* window manager. It's not terribly useful
> but it can happen when the wm crashes for some reason (in which case if
> you have a terminal open you can just start it again without ending the
> session.)
>
> poc
>

That is correct. In fact, you can launch X from the CLI and have it
display a small xterm
with nothing else in the desktop, but what's the use of that... that's
why we have
Window Managers like Gnome, KDE and the others mentioned earlier.
I think the OP should really read the man pages: xinit for starters.

~af

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