Anders Karlsson wrote:
* Björn Persson <bjorn@rombobjörn.se> [20080823 18:57]:Rahul Sundaram quoted Paul W. Frields:[snip]The first announcement gave me the impression that there was a technical problem, such as overloaded web servers or a crashed database or something. In retrospect it's obvious that when that announcement was written they already knew or at least suspected that there had been an intrusion. This gives me the impression that Paul W. Frields was not being truthful. He lied by telling half the truth.Disclosure at an inappropriate time gives people the mistaken impression one is not being truthful, when that's not the case.That is a pretty strong statement to make. Not telling everything does not equate lying - especially when what you are telling (or can tell) is true. And if all you have is an impression that he is not truthful, you conceed that you have no evidence to the contrary as well. I think you owe Paul Frields an apology.
It'll never happen, although I agree completely that it's due.The nay-sayers and gloom-speakers on this list are *much* more interested in bitching and moaning about how things have been handled wrong and they've been treated badly than actually being good members of the community.
It makes me sick when I see this spew, and I want to (virtually) throttle these jackasses.
[snip]Did it really take a week before the information that the issue was related to security became available?As I stated in the announcement, I'll continue to provide information as it becomes available."I think you ought to read the book "The Cuckoo's Egg" by Clifford Stoll. Once you have read it and understood it, feel free to comment again on the issue at hand here.
See, there's the thing - the ones who bitch the loudest are usually the ones who understand the least. To actually encourage them to remedy their ignorance is just a waste of electrons. They seem to be happy in their wallow.
-- Thomas
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