On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Russell Miller <duskglow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:Out of curiousity, what soundchip is it? What does lspci say it is? What
> What gets me is that it's an integrated soundchip. Usually those are
> pretty well supported, at least in basics.
kind of motherboard is it on?
It's an Azalia on a AMD K9A Platinum.
OK, sorry guys, but I'm going to reply to my own post, because I just found a perfect example of why I feel like the whole thing is going down the tubes.
I ran alsa-info.
First it tells me that it's going to automatically upload the results to a pastebin site, then it asks me if I want to continue to run the script. Strike 1. It should have defaulted to no, and just ran. It's just outputting info, there's no need to protect me from myself.
Next, I run with the --no-upload option, cursing the damn thing out while I do, and then it asks me again, do I want to run the script? Yeah I want to run the script, I *typed the command*. What is it protecting me from???
So then, it runs, and outputs the data into a file. Into a *file*? WTF happened to the unix idiom of sending things to stdout unless you specifically give it a "-f" option?
I know you guys don't write alsa. I'm not saying you're responsible for this. What I am saying is that for a long time sysadmin like me, this is really a step backwards. I just want to debug a fricking pulseaudio/alsa problem. Don't protect me from myself when the worst that's going to happen is that I get stuff printed to the screen that I don't care about.
I haven't done a whole lot of exploration of Fedora 9 lately, I've been busy at work with Centos. It is ALL like this???
--Russell
I ran alsa-info.
First it tells me that it's going to automatically upload the results to a pastebin site, then it asks me if I want to continue to run the script. Strike 1. It should have defaulted to no, and just ran. It's just outputting info, there's no need to protect me from myself.
Next, I run with the --no-upload option, cursing the damn thing out while I do, and then it asks me again, do I want to run the script? Yeah I want to run the script, I *typed the command*. What is it protecting me from???
So then, it runs, and outputs the data into a file. Into a *file*? WTF happened to the unix idiom of sending things to stdout unless you specifically give it a "-f" option?
I know you guys don't write alsa. I'm not saying you're responsible for this. What I am saying is that for a long time sysadmin like me, this is really a step backwards. I just want to debug a fricking pulseaudio/alsa problem. Don't protect me from myself when the worst that's going to happen is that I get stuff printed to the screen that I don't care about.
I haven't done a whole lot of exploration of Fedora 9 lately, I've been busy at work with Centos. It is ALL like this???
--Russell
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