First of all, I'd like to apologize to the subscribers of this list for my recent excesses. I'm known to have a hard time resisting the impulse to participate in mailing list debates about software freedom and related issues, but most of the time I manage to keep it under control. Furthermore, I tend to dismiss demands for silence from people who hold an opposing opinion in a debate, for obvious reasons. A couple of weeks ago, a very stressful personal situation came up, and these discussions here about 100% Free distros, Linux-libre, GNU GPL, GNU Operating System, Copyleft, Free Software, its movement and its philosophy, appear to have served as an escape, to keep my mind away from the stressful situation that I could do nothing about. In my state of mind, I was unable to realize I was posting *so* *many* messages, and to tell the legitimate complaints about the volume from the complaints I'm used to dismissing when performing my Free Software advocacy and education work, often at environments not anywhere as friendly as Fedora lists. I apologize to all Fedora users and contributors for my excess and for the harm I caused, and I thank my colleagues who approached me with a friendly tone and helped me see my error. On Jul 30, 2008, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> On Jul 29, 2008, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> No, RSAREF couldn't have been modified. It had restricted >>> distribution and everyone had to get their own copy. >> http://www.nic.funet.fi/index/crypt/cryptography/rpem/ripem/rsaref/ > And the point was, and is, that the GPL makes really free software > distribution difficult or impossible even when source is available > for everything. Having source available is not enough for Software to be Free. It might come as a surprise to some, but it's not even enough for it to be Open Source. > Note that it was Stallman himself leading the charge against this > free distribution, /me stares at 'free distribution', then at the sentence containing 'restricted distribution' above, and pauses, wondering if it makes sense to even try to understand this stance, compared with the stance directed at the GPL. > Later the license on the gmp library was changed to lgpl. AFAIK the reasoning is that, once there is a functionally-equivalent library under a more permissive license, the requirements of the GPL that are relaxed by the LGPL no longer work as an incentive for more software to be released in terms that both respect and defend users' freedoms, because anyone who'd rather not respect or defend them would just use the equivalent library. So we might as well use the LGPL which, should someone want to further improve the library or the software that uses it, ensures one or the other can be offered under the GPL. > http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/ReplacingGMPNotes#ReasonsforReplacingGMPastheBignumlibrary "Interesting" arguments there. #1. is the result of misreading LGPL v2.1, missing its section 6. I know because at some point I'd misread it that way myself, and asked authoritative sources about it :-) #2. and #3. amount to "we'd rather rewrite from scratch than adapt GMP [under its current license] so that it does what we want", which probably only makes sense under the influence of mistake #1. Or a fair aomunt of alcohol :-) Best, -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
