On Thursday 31 July 2008, Tim wrote: >Tim: >>> Sounds more like Apache problems, not AWStats, this is Apache failing to >>> start. AWStats just reads the logs, *separately*. As a regular cron >>> job, as I recall. Though it can be fired up on demand. > >Gene Heskett: [...] >AWStats produces a set of webpages with statistics that you can login >and view. See the screenshots on <http://awstats.sourceforge.net/>. > [...] >NB: I've done this with a spinning headache, so you ought to be able to >manage this as well, without my headache. ouch, like my aching back, thats not good at all, mine is from 70+ years of abuse & 25 extra pounds, does your's have a reason? [...] >I mention an alternative stats program, since webalizer seems to be >installed by default, and it can be handy to have a look at more than >one analyzer, to see which results you like reading better. I see that is installed, but finding a viewer for it seems to be purely by accident, it opened ELinks, whatever that is, when I clicked on its july report from within midnight commander. Grumble... Question for the webalizer folks then? Why is there not a link to the viewer in the k-menu's? Having it installed, but effectively unavailable doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If there had been such a menu entry, its likely I would have used it rather than doing a freshmeat search for the newest, highly rated such tool & then went hunting in yumex for a suitable rpm. But, OTOH, this IS linux, go find your own tools, but linking a name to a function doesn't seem to be a strong point in linux either. I've not looked at either enough to develop a love affair with either of them just yet. >> Also, what user does the cron entry belong to? > >[root@gonzales ~]# ll /etc/cron.hourly/awstats >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 188 2008-07-22 06:50 /etc/cron.hourly/awstats > So thats good. >[root@gonzales ~]# ll -Z /etc/cron.hourly/awstats >-rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0 > /etc/cron.hourly/awstats > >How did it originally set itself up as? ls -l /etc/awstats/: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62137 2008-07-30 17:28 awstats.coyote.coyote.den.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62130 2008-07-21 17:17 awstats.localhost.localdomain.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62130 2008-07-21 17:17 awstats.model.conf And I haven't touched what the rpm installed. And its output is at: http://localhost/awstats/awstats.pl?config=coyote.coyote.den Since I'm running an oddball port # to the outside world, I was rather surprised to see the googlebot was there every day this last month. >>> Are you still using your computer as root, and messing up file and >>> directory ownerships as you go along? >> >> Here and there. If fedora would give me what I want to do, I'd use it as >> is, but it doesn't. > >Generally, I find it does. I only "su -" to reconfigure things. But >once you stay as root while doing things, you paint yourself into a >corner. It would appear to be the natural result. Some of this started when I tried to build OpenMovieEditor, and F8 apparently doesn't have enough GLX stuff to build it, 8 OpenGL functions seem to have been stripped from the library by RedHat. Reason? Damned if I know. See some of my posts in that thread. This is however, a perfect example of the major reason I do run as root, its a hell of a lot easier to fix stuff they've silently broken in what I view as just as flagrant a market lockin as M$ is famous for doing. Why else would they strip 8 function calls out of the OpenGL stuff? >I also leave SELinux as default (enabled and targeted). I might >temporarily disable it to see if it made a difference to something I was >trying to beat into submission, but it goes back on again once I work >out where any problems were. Its been enabled/targetted here non-stop for 4 or 5 months, and things were humming right along, till 2.6.27-rc1. I've rebuilt it without the IPsec options for selinux now, but haven't rebooted, I've been busy saying magic incantations and making shingles appear, all nailed down, on a new 16x26 garage roof. All that magic sure makes me sweat though, and working through a half hours light drizzle didn't help. Another 10 shingles or so and the front half is done, but I need to do all the trim around the edges for the back half before I can step over the peak with shingles in hand. >I had no SELinux issues while using either of these stats analysers. I think I, in my haste, pointed too many fingers. The one I pointed at awstats was in error. This is a 2.6.27-rc1 (straight from kernel.org) problem. The selinux guys are poking at it now I believe, but not sure, its been quite a few hours since I got up from this keyboard around 10:30ish this morning. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) After your lover has gone you will still have PEANUT BUTTER! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
