<20080730044254.2911A619CB0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> の、 "fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 291" において、 "fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx"さんは書きました： もうメールはいりません > Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: network configuration file (Marc Wilson) > 2. Re: network configuration file (Antonio Olivares) > 3. Re: SELinux issue with BackupPC 3.1.0 on Fedora 6 (Todd Zullinger) > 4. LVM - Install F9 without LVM (Bob Hartung) > 5. Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM (Antonio Olivares) > 6. Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM (Tim) > 7. Re: unable to enumerate USB device (Tim) > 8. Re: pulseaudio does not start after kernel update > (Antti J. Huhtala) > 9. Re: Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd? > (jkosin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) > 10. Re: Missing Hardwae option (Tim) > 11. Re: cron job (Nifty Fedora Mitch) > 12. Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM (Peter Langfelder) > 13. print request completed but no printer output (Francisco Corella) > 14. Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM (edik077@xxxxxxxxx) > 15. Re: New support lists? (Gordon Messmer) > 16. Re: print request completed but no printer output (Simon Slater) > 17. Re: New support lists? (Antonio Olivares) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:08:24 -0700 > From: Marc Wilson <msw@xxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: network configuration file > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <20080730020824.GE5760@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:21:23PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > By default Fedora uses NetworkManager to connect to networks both wired > > and wireless. You can change things manually, but it is much easier to > > let NetWorkManger do it for you :) > > Didn't you mean it was much easier to remove NetworkManager and let tools > that actually work configure the network for you? > > I had occasion to use NM last week... it's the same POS it always was. > > IMHO the *only* reason you would ever want NM around would be if you needed > to connect to a WPA-protected wireless network. > > -- > Marc Wilson | QOTD: On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say... oh, somewhere > msw@xxxxxxx | in there. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:17:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: network configuration file > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <244651.31729.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > By default Fedora uses NetworkManager to connect to > > networks both wired > > > and wireless. You can change things manually, but it > > is much easier to > > > let NetWorkManger do it for you :) > > > > Didn't you mean it was much easier to remove > > NetworkManager and let tools > > that actually work configure the network for you? > Yes sir! :) Pretty much Tom Horsely answered the thread much better than I did. I referred the OP to Mauriat Miranda's page where the advise is to do the same as what Tom mentioned > > # service NetworkManager stop > # chkconfig NetworkManager off > # chkconfig network on > # service network start > > > > > I had occasion to use NM last week... it's the same POS > > it always was. > > On a laptop in which one has both a wired network and a wireless network (that works) it is fine to have NetworkManager. Although it is a pain when dealing with protected networks. Sometimes one has to retype the password(s) to known networks. > > > > > IMHO the *only* reason you would ever want NM around would > > be if you needed > > to connect to a WPA-protected wireless network. > Very true :) > > > > -- > > Marc Wilson | QOTD: On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd > > say... oh, somewhere > > msw@xxxxxxx | in there. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Antonio > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:21:41 -0400 > From: Todd Zullinger <tmz@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: SELinux issue with BackupPC 3.1.0 on Fedora 6 > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <20080730022141.GX5655@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > > If I turn off SE Linux, BackupPC works fine. But per our policy, > > this server must have SE Linux turned on. > > What's the point of a policy that requires SELinux to be enabled yet > allows a server to run an OS release that stopped receiving any > updates well over a year ago? > > > How to make this work, please? > > You could look at audit2why and audit2allow, as well as the SELinux > policy for RHEL/CentOS (though I don't know if BackupPC is handled in > that policy or not). > > -- > Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound. > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 542 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080729/ e7c53c0a/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:34:58 -0500 > From: Bob Hartung <rwhart@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <488FD352.9070606@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi all, > How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > Tnx, > > bob > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:56:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <454102.38213.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bob Hartung <rwhart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > From: Bob Hartung <rwhart@xxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > > To: "Fedora List" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 7:34 PM > > Hi all, > > How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting > > custom > > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > > > Tnx, > > > > bob > > > > -- > > Bob, > > Try installing in Text Mode, from release notes it says : > > LVM Unavailable in Text Installs > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-disk-druid.html > > Try that. Hopefully that let's you install without LVM. > > Regards, > > Antonio > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:24 +0930 > From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1217386704.2710.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:34 -0500, Bob Hartung wrote: > > How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > Look around the partitioning tool, you'll see that some things sit on > top of others. Remove them in the right sequence. This is easy if > you're dedicating the whole drive to Linux, you can try removing each > part, one by one. Be careful if you're trying to keep something, though > (e.g. dual-boot systems). > > I installed 9 on one box that way. I let it have LVM on a laptop I'm > playing with, I figured that I wouldn't have anything other than > settings that need keeping on the laptop, so being able to rescue things > isn't a priority. I don't know if we've got any good tools for > recovering from LVM problems yet. > > -- > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:48:10 +0930 > From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: unable to enumerate USB device > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1217387890.2710.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:35 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > This is still an F8 machine. I get them both at bootup, and > > sometimes when I plug in a new USB device. > > I haven't tried 8, I skipped from 7 to 9. > > > Jul 29 12:03:20 mikkel kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 > > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 13 > > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device found, idVendor= 0830, idProduct=0050 > > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber= > > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Product: Palm Handheld > > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: SerialNumber: PalmSN12345678 > > Jul 29 12:04:33 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 13 > > > > Taking a deeper look at things, I noticed that hub 1 is a version > > 2.0 hub, and hub 4 is a version 1.10 hub. These are both internal > > hubs, so I wounder if they are using the same socket? Could it be > > that the high speed hub (v2.0) tries to talk to the device, and when > > it can not, it hands it off to the full speed hub (v1.10)? > > USB starts off with version 1, at the slowest speed (the lowest common > denominator), then sees if it can shift up speeds and to using version > 2. This appears as the host device changing from 1 to 2, not just the > thing plugged into it. > > -- > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:29:00 +0300 > From: "Antti J. Huhtala" <ahuhtal4@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: pulseaudio does not start after kernel update > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Andrea <mariofutire@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1217388540.3011.20.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > ma, 2008-07-28 kello 23:57 +0300, Antti J. Huhtala kirjoitti: > > ma, 2008-07-28 kello 20:28 +0100, Andrea kirjoitti: > > > > > > Is there a bug report for that? > > > > > Andrea > > > > > Not by me, and haven't had the time to check if someone else has. > > I briefly tried the previous kernel and PA seems to work OK in it. > > I'll write a bug report tomorrow if no one else has by then. > > > > Antti > > > Replying to my own post: After trying what Alan Cox suggested in another > thread (Re: getting sound back) on 28th July, my pulseaudio sound worked > OK all day yesterday using the latest 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 kernel. > > In addition, there are already a number of bug reports in bugzilla that > cover the PA issue (eg. 456485, 455661, 455202, 452702, and 438284) for > F9. Check these and add a comment if you think you can shed more light > on the problem. I decided my experience had little or no added value. > > Antti > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:32:05 -0400 (EDT) > From: jkosin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd? > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <49321.98.166.145.65.1217388725.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Tom spot Callaway <tcallawa@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > I thought that might be the answer but wanted to at least ask. In that > > case > > a somewhat related question... > > > > Would it be pretty easy to get the modules (ricoh_mmc and dependencies) > > required to use the ricoh internal SD card reader in the initrd? The other > > thing i wanted to do was just put syslinux on the USB drive since it will > > boot to that, but not the card reader, and then actually have the livecd > > image on an SD card. > > > > The end result I'm looking for is to be able to plug in the USB thumb > > drive > > and boot, but after the initrd is done, be able to remove the USB drive so > > I > > don't have it sticking out of the machine, while running the live image > > off > > of the SD card. > > > > It's just so darn easy to remove/break the usb drive off when moving > > around > > with a laptop, not to mention I have a 13 month old that is attracted to > > the > > blue LED light when it's being accessed. > > > > Thanks, > > Richard > > -- > > Richard, > > It doesn't get easier as they get older. I have a 28 month old and a 5 > year old both liking the computer. The 28 month old has found the KILL > switch in the back of the computer for the power supply. And my 5 year > old always wants the computer when I would like or need to use it for just > a short time. > > You should be able to use a FAT or V-FAT partition. Windows should still > like those file systems and they may be easier to integrate into the > kernel than the NTFS support. > > James > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:32:48 +0930 > From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Missing Hardwae option > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1217390568.2710.15.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 17:14 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I would guess you were correct but you are not. I used the file: > > > > ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list > > containing: > > > > [Added Associations] > > x-content/audio-cdda=totem.desktop; > > x-content/video-dvd=livna-vlc.desktop; > > > > I logged out and logged in. But rhythembox appeared and not totem as > > one of the options. Try it and see if you can make what you describe > > to work. Its frustrating. > > Looking at the totem.desktop file, I don't find it listing cdda in the > MIME types that it supports, so it shouldn't get offered as a player for > them, though it (movie player) is on the right-click list when I browse > through the psuedo-tracks in Nautilus. I didn't have an audio disc > handy when I responded, last night. > > Can you get totem to play audio discs, manually? I can't through the > play disc menu entry in the program, but can through the + button to > browse for a file, and I can externally. > > If you can, it would seem that you've added a plug-in for it, and that > should add to the list of MIME types it can accept. > > Totem would seem a terribly bloated application for playing an audio CD. > > -- > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:05:13 -0700 > From: Nifty Fedora Mitch <niftyfedora@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: cron job > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20080730040513.GA4340@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:29:44PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 tony.chamberlain@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > >> > >> Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly, > >> and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just > >> status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need > >> mailed to root. Is there anyway to suppress mailings? > > > > Send your jobs to /dev/null like so: > > 30 0 * * * /path/to/program >> /dev/null > > > > Make sense? > > The above addresses stdout as requested > also consider stderr.. > > 2 1 * * * $HOME/bin/check-calendar > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/ null & > > In general a unix program should be 'silent' unless there is an error. > If cronjobs are filling the mailbox too quickly then look at the jobs > to see why they are generating so much traffic. > > Also since this is root and most users 'never' login as root, ;-) also look at > /etc/aliases. It is possible to send mail for root to a person. That person can > sort, filter, read and dispose of the traffic as needed. Look near the lines: > > # Person who should get root's mail > #root: marc > > Don't forget to run newaliases. > > > -- > T o m M i t c h e l l > Looking for a place to hang mfors hat. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:06:49 -0700 > From: "Peter Langfelder" <peter.langfelder@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <e292e50807292106k4b96b6c8nbd641c153ed2a0e6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Bob Hartung <rwhart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > > > Hmm.. I installed F9 on my desktop using the graphical installer > (anaconda) without LVM without any trouble. Unfortunately it was so > simple I don't remember the details anymore. Perhaps you don't want to > delete the volume but rather change its type? > > HTH, > > Peter > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:07:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: Francisco Corella <francisco_corella@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: print request completed but no printer output > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <84124.21879.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello, > > I'm trying to use a USB printer with Fedora 8. When I > plugged in the printer to the computer, Gnome > correctly identified the printer as a Brother > MFC-665CW and found a driver for it. I sent several > print requests using Firefox, and also using the > commands lp and lpr. All print jobs were successfully > completed according to lpstat, and according to > /var/log/cups/error_log. But there was no printer > output. The printer is working fine when plugged in > to a Mac. Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance, > > Francisco > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:02 -0700 > From: edik077@xxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <48c5f0a00807292122y6f20e55cqfb5fc69a04074af@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Bob, choose manual partioning with disk druid. Check the box: "Allow > me to review and make changes" or something like that. The you'll be > able to see a single VolumeGroup that includes the Logical Volumes. > Delete, first the Logical Volumes then the VolumeGroup. After that, > create at minimum the following partitions: /boot, /, /home, and a > swap partition. It depends what you wanna use the box for. If it is a > desktop the previous scheme will work if it is a server use /boot, /, > /tmp, /var /usr and a swap partitions. > > Personally I use LVM on my boxes on a couple of desktops like this scheme: > /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3 defaults 1 1 > LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 > devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 > /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 > proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 > /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swap swap defaults 0 0 > > The advantage with this scheme is that I can easily resize my Logical > Volumes when I need it without any disturbance and in an easy way. > Think twice before that advantages/disadvantages of LVM before going > for a classic partiton style. I even use LVM on an itranet I use on my > job for almost five years and it works beautiful. Again, it depends > what are you gonna use the box for. Regards > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Peter Langfelder > <peter.langfelder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Bob Hartung <rwhart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > >> install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > >> > > > > Hmm.. I installed F9 on my desktop using the graphical installer > > (anaconda) without LVM without any trouble. Unfortunately it was so > > simple I don't remember the details anymore. Perhaps you don't want to > > delete the volume but rather change its type? > > > > HTH, > > > > Peter > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > > > > -- > Ed Landaveri > GNU/Linux User 433512 > http://counter.li.org > "Free as in Freedom" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:10 -0700 > From: Gordon Messmer <yinyang@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: New support lists? > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <488FEC72.4090303@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > I'll make one other comment here. Most 'Free Software' people I know (and > > I count myself as one) share your view of GNU/Alexandre and wish quite > > frankly he was a microsoft fanboy instead as he'd do more good for Free > > and Open Source software that way. > > The majority of this very long thread has, I think, bee focused on > correcting misinformation about the GPL. I don't see how letting FUD > spread about that license, or any other Free Software license, is going > to do any good for anyone. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:20:04 +1000 > From: Simon Slater <pyevet@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: print request completed but no printer output > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1217391604.1322.28.camel@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:07 -0700, Francisco Corella wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to use a USB printer with Fedora 8. When I > > plugged in the printer to the computer, Gnome > > correctly identified the printer as a Brother > > MFC-665CW and found a driver for it. I sent several > > print requests using Firefox, and also using the > > commands lp and lpr. All print jobs were successfully > > completed according to lpstat, and according to > > /var/log/cups/error_log. But there was no printer > > output. The printer is working fine when plugged in > > to a Mac. Any ideas? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Francisco > > > I have the same model. A good place to start is here: > http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html You need to go to > different pages to get the drivers for printer, scan and fax. > > >From memory I had to install the brother drivers first, but hal still > created an entry in the printer list itself (a thread last year > discussed this). Take care to follow the correct sequence ( lpd driver > before cups driver) and all should go well. A current thread discusses > how to handle any SELinux denials. > > Printing is working fine for me, faxes fine, scans as root but am > working on getting it for users, works USB or network but haven't tried > wireless yet. > > -- > Hooroo, > Simon > Registered Linux User #463789. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:42:28 -0700 (PDT) > From: Antonio Olivares <olivares14031@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: New support lists? > To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <628833.89630.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > The majority of this very long thread has, I think, bee > > focused on > > correcting misinformation about the GPL. I don't see > > how letting FUD > > spread about that license, or any other Free Software > > license, is going > > to do any good for anyone. > > > > -- > > IANAL, even the ones that are can tell that the licensing is a very complicated issue. I have been in those discussions because I have questions myself. In many ways it is an excellent license, but it does have certain clauses that in certain situations, you must comply with it or you can get into trouble. This has happened to companies who have abused the system and to individuals for not complying in some way. > The wording is complicated, certain clauses about you can do this, but if you do ..., then you must ****. Everything matters and is important. > > On the same token, I have argued back and forth and acknowledge that I misbehaved in some ways. I ask for clemency and hope that all is forgiven :) > > On the new lists issue, I do not agree that new lists are necessary. Eventually those long threads will appear and it will be difficult not to to see them. There were the KDE4 ones, not too long ago. Eventually things got settled :) This is nature of the list. We have to be prepared for everything. I will also repeat one thing that does justice to the list members. Many are very nice and helpful people that give proper advice and are very knowledgeable in Fedora and other Linuxes with GNU also included. It is a priviledge to learn from many great people :) > > Regards, > > Antonio > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 291 > ******************************************** > ************************************************* ＮＴＴコムウェア北海道株式会社 BS開発部 第1担当 菅野 光彦(kanno.mitsuhiko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) TEL:(#-112-8910) 外線TEL：011-281-6240 〒060-0042 札幌市中央区大通西７丁目 ＮＴＴコムウェア札幌ビル９Ｆ ************************************************ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
