On Monday 28 July 2008 19:06, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Hey, how about me starting a quest here? :-) > > > > When you say "information" above, you actually > > mean "classical information", > > as opposed to quantum information, which does not possess > > the property of > > copying (this famous property is called the no-cloning > > theorem). > > quantum as opposed to classical, I do not see what is the connection? Ok, the theorem states that quantum information cannot be cloned (ie. copied) as the classical one can. This in the sense that if you try to make an identical copy of some quantum information, you destroy the original in the process. Some people tend to describe this as "quantum teleportation" of information --- it dissapears here, it appears there. Now, in the part that I quoted, Gordon Messmer was talking about copying information. I started nitpicking (quite unjustifiedly), and emphasized that he should be talking about information of classical type, not information in general (as this would incorrectly include the quantum case). While technically correct, this comment of mine was just nitpicking beyond any sanity. In the following paragraphs of that post, I used it to draw a silent parallel to the whole Linux vs GNU/Linux discussion. // Don't worry, I believe that 99.99% of people on this planet know absolutely nothing about quantum information --- and of course I was not serious about trying to educate anyone on this, nor to start a QSJ (Quest for Social Justice) or a thread regarding it. // But really, was it really neccessary to include <irony></irony> tags at the beginning and the end of my post? I thought it would be obvious... ;-) > I do not see how not using GNU/Linux is a social injustice. I disagree. Neither do I, but Alexandre is talking about it in a number of posts. I just wanted to tag along and define a YASI (Yet Another Social Injustice) by turning attention to classical vs. quantum information. ;-) And then "try" to engage in a completely analogous discussion that has been here in this thread so far. The point was to show how stupid such quests are in general, and the "GNU/Linux" one in particular. ;-) > Can your thread far exceed this one? I will not dare you to do it, but I > think it is not needed. If you decide to create it, may people might > ignore it and/or *block it*. This does not help either cause. Precisely! Tell that to Alexandre and other pro-GNU vocals. That is actually my very point. Btw, if you (or anyone) try hard enough to disprove my "quest" for changing the word "information" into "classical/information" everywhere it appears, I guarantee that together we can make a thread big beyond any imagination. :-) It's simple --- I say that the switch to "classical/information" should be made, because it is social injustice not to; than you reply that it should not be; then I reply that it should, and present some arguments, quote some papers etc.; then you disagree, and present counter-arguments; but I am tough opponent, and I disprove your arguments, and present new ones; but you are also tough and you invent new arguments --- and so on, I believe you get the picture... ;-) We could easily aim to get into the Guinnes Book of Records for the insanely high number of posts arguing that way. :-) > > P.S. I certainly hope that everyone gets the true point of > > this post, because otherwise... ;-) You missed to see this disclaimer, really? ;-) Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
